Peppers could be coming back

[Bronn]

4 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Yeah, when I think of Denver I think of a team with no world beaters at DE. 

Jared Crick

Adam Gotsis

Billy Winn

Derek Wolfe

Don't confuse pass rushers with DEs

[electro's horse]

9 minutes ago, Bronn said:

Jared Crick

Adam Gotsis

Billy Winn

Derek Wolfe

Don't confuse pass rushers with DEs

Oh we're being pedantic are we?

von Miller played 4-3 DE under fox, and Demarcus ware had played there before in dallas. 

Either one would be fine in whatever defense you put them in, just like peppers had thrived as a situational olb in Green Bay. Also the position he demanded to play next when the panthers were trying to trade him. 

And before you mention no name Wolfe, the Broncos thought him so replaceable they gave him a five year deal. 

[My Goodness My Guinness]

On 1/28/2017 at 6:05 PM, TheSpecialJuan said:

Peppers spent his first eight years in Carolina. Coming off a seven-plus sack season he would upgrade one of the worst pass-rushing defenses in the league. Peppers is considering retirement, but showed enough last year to continue playing. Entering his age-37 season, Peppers would likely have to settle for a team-friendly deal.

The 2nd ranked sack defense is one of the worst pass-rushing defenses in the league?

[Vagrant]

People are forgetting the impact Jared Allen had on the team last year. He was to the defensive line what Roman Harper was to the secondary. Adding another veteran to teach these kids how to get after it couldn't be a bad thing. 

[electro's horse]

33 minutes ago, My Goodness My Guinness said:

The 2nd ranked sack defense is one of the worst pass-rushing defenses in the league?

I'm just going to go out on a limb here and suggest counting stats don't really tell the whole story. 

I dunno just a possibility. 

[Guest Lasus83]

Trade for Danielle Hunter...

Sent from my SM-G930P using CarolinaHuddle mobile app

[MV%doe]

Huddle type idea- Peppers as TE!!! He'd be a beast at blocking, even if pep doesn't like contact. Also it adds to huge list of TD redzone targets that our team refuses to use.

[SCP]

Hey at least my Peppers jersey would be useful again.


Sent from my iPhone using CarolinaHuddle

[Saca312]

1 hour ago, MV%doe said:

Huddle type idea- Peppers as TE!!! He'd be a beast at blocking, even if pep doesn't like contact. Also it adds to huge list of TD redzone targets that our team refuses to use.

Heck, why not make Cam a WR? I mean he has great hands, and would arguably be the toughest guy in the league to try and body out.

[MV%doe]

16 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

Heck, why not make Cam a WR? I mean he has great hands, and would arguably be the toughest guy in the league to try and body out.

But we'd never hear the end of cams talking about his "team best hands". Besides I already came up with that idea awhile back when I seriously suggested Joe Webb be part of the offensive. Most thought I was saying bench cam in typical huddle fashion. I thought having Webb replace Tolbert/#3WR/#2TE would make the defenses poop their pants. Webb knows the whole offensive and has real game experience at WR. I mean think if both Webb and cam are in shotgun formation (3-4 feet apart), Kalil could angle the snap either way. Or during pre-snap cam motions out as WR with KB and Olsen on one side. Both Webb and cam can read option, just endless possibilities.....

[Steve_Smith_Sr.]

10 minutes ago, thebigcat said:

he's an aloof who quit on the city, his home state and the franchise that drafted him #2 overall 

Exactly how I feel about him.  Peppers can keep chasing that Lombardi elsewhere.

Plugging older players in is not the way to build a long term team.  So we get a year or two of mediocre play out of him, then he retires.  Then what?  We're back in the exact same place.  I'd go for a younger guy who can stick around and develop than be Peppers retirement home.

Yeah, I'm salty towards this guy - esp after the football nonsense he did to Cam in 2015.  F this guy.

[rippadonn]

It's not like he left us for the Falcons or something unforgivable like that. 

[LinvilleGorge]

To all those talking "building long-term", that's always been our philosophy. How many Lombardis has that gotten us? We have an elite QB in his prime and we have cap space. While we may be down in the dumps about the shitty 2016 season, we're still in a pretty damn good spot as a franchise due in large part to those two assets.

Teams that consistently compete at a high level year in and year out usually have an elite QB and they make sure that they put a competitive roster around him. That involves strategically filling holes with vets. Gettleman has done that here, but previously he was cash strapped and those vets had to be bottom of the barrel type guys. In 2015, those bargain basement signings worked out perfectly. In 2016, they didn't. Hopefully, we're now in a position where we can step up and fill our holes with a little higher quality veteran stopgap. That's exactly what a guy like Peppers would be. At his age, no he's not a building block for the future but that's okay. Sign him to step in and play immediately and draft a DE to develop in a backup/rotational role so that he doesn't have to get thrown to the wolves like our rookie CBs were this year. It's always best to not have to rely on rookies to contribute right away. If they're ready, great! If they're not, that's okay because the roster is strong enough to bring them along at their pace.

[Bronn]

On 1/30/2017 at 11:49 AM, electro's horse said:

Oh we're being pedantic are we?

von Miller played 4-3 DE under fox, and Demarcus ware had played there before in dallas. 

Either one would be fine in whatever defense you put them in, just like peppers had thrived as a situational olb in Green Bay. Also the position he demanded to play next when the panthers were trying to trade him. 

And before you mention no name Wolfe, the Broncos thought him so replaceable they gave him a five year deal. 

I'm not being pedantic. The Broncos' most recent success on defense is attributed to Wade Phillips. It has nothing to do from the John Fox days other than the guys that are on the team.

Miller and Ware aren't traditional DE's at this point in their careers. They are what Peppers in his prime was and could have been. They don't put their hand in the dirt so much, they're outside and inside. They play zone or man coverage and rush the edge and/or middle. They are a hybrid position that basically makes it impossible to gameplan around very much.

Denver's traditional ends, that I listed (one's really a glorified DT IIRC,) are just jobbers doing their job in the system.

Yeah, Wolfe got a multi-year deal. So what? He's the 12th highest paid DE now, but that doesn't mean anything other than what the Denver Broncos value him as.

Besides Wolfe they've got the three other guys I listed, one of which is basically a DT. So that's three official DEs on the roster, but I'm being pedantic about Ware and Miller and Marshall, et al. being hybrid LB rush guys?

Addison could get paid. Yes he could. Pep could get paid and/or be a Panther. But at the end of the day, no stud DE like JPP or whomever else anyone here wants us to overpay for will help our pass rush or defense any more than guys like Branch and Taylor, or any JAG with the physical tools and a system in which they can thrive by executing. We could drop millions on anyone, and they could go down with injury. Then, when we have no depth or talent behind them, the whole thing fails.