Gman: ...we're going to attack the issue [of LT]

[Cpt slay a ho]

Actions speak louder then words, this position shouldn't have been ignored as long as it was


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[Snake]

ATL drafted defensively just to beat the Panthers. We need to draft\FA offensively to counter that.

[Guest Lasus83]

ATL drafted defensively just to beat the Panthers. We need to draft\FA offensively to counter that.

Agree...

We have been doing this, too, for a long time.

I remember TD getting drafted specifically to stop Mike Vick from running all over us... they called it the "Joker" position.

Dude just spied Vick all the time.

God I hated Vick.



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[LinvilleGorge]

46 minutes ago, Lasus83 said:

Prior to 2015 (summing up performance of 2014 and prior)

https://www.profootballfocus.com/2014-pff-offensive-line-rankings/3/



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I watch football games, I don't put much stock into PFF.

[The Lobo]

I'm watching the senior bowl and that Jones kid from ECU is legit. Any ECU fans here care to add anything about him?

[TheRed]

39 minutes ago, arbnranger said:

I hear ya Red, but c'mon with us to 2017. 

"Keep your nose in the wind and your eyes along the skyline" 

We don't know what the 2016 season will mean long term.

Other teams have the means of improving too. See the Atlanta Falcons.

Our core is only getting older. Luke just got his second concussion in 2 seasons. Thomas Davis certainly isn't getting younger. We do not have the luxury of casually dismissing a lost season due to simple inaction as inconsequential.

Of course I'm hopeful for 2017, and I think we can make strides. But there are no free passes for failure here. Newton, KB, Shula, Rivera have all been blamed for their roles. Our GM is not above reproach.

[Guest Lasus83]

I watch football games, I don't put much stock into PFF.

Orly?

What was your job title again?

... cus im willing to bet that every single person on this forum has no more affiliation with profootball than they do with the Russian space program.

We are all just fans who care about this team, we are all amatures, but we are all, also, more committed than the average fan... because the average NFL fan is not on a team forum talking about the offseason in late January.

You may have watch extensive film on Reiff to determine that he is not a scheme fit for us, or was a product of being in a good system, or was overrated by PFF because they didn't factor in poor hand placement/ bad back pedal or some other such thing...

But I doubt it.

And I can't disagree that PFF is not a nfl bible. Because Oher was the 2nd worst rated LT (second to bell) before coming to us... and then was servicable and healthy.

...

What I do know is:

We need an answer at LT

We need that answer to remain healthy on our team.

Reiff may not be a great LT but he is really good at staying healthy. He is young. He has played as a starter in the NFL. And, above all, he will likely be available.

Do you take injury-bug Kalil or Oher over him?

Do you place any unproven rookie in this class?

Who is going to trade away a top tier LT?

A lot of people say Joe Thomas... have you seen his 90 million dollar contract? He is turning 33 and will cost a pick or player to get... assuming the browns will move him.

We are hurting at LT and should have fixed this problem already...

But we have not... and we are stuck in a bad situation.

All I am saying is that Reiff is the best of a bad situation.

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[LinvilleGorge]

Triggered.

[Guest Lasus83]

Triggered.

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[top dawg]

5 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I watch football games, I don't put much stock into PFF.

Multiple NFL franchises put stock into PFF. It's not perfect, but nothing is. It's just one of the tools used, and more and more teams are seeing its value.

[LinvilleGorge]

37 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Multiple NFL franchises put stock into PFF. It's not perfect, but nothing is. It's just one of the tools used, and more and more teams are seeing its value.

I hope we don't. The guys who run PFF are just a few football fans who are data analysts. They aren't football people.

[Black&Blue]

I want to remind everybody that this is the same GM who, this time last year, said he had no problem franchising Josh Norman.  I don't understand why so many people still trust him. 

[Black&Blue]

11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I hope we don't. The guys who run PFF are just a few football fans who are data analysts. They aren't football people.

I think it's a very good website, but I agree with you that PFF is being taken way too seriously. 

[chknwing]

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