Double Trouble

[Ace_Aladdin]

8 hours ago, stbugs said:

You missed my entire point. Stewart/CAP had 968 yards and 11 TDs rushing. What I said is that looking at Atlanta's duo is silly because Shula does not employ the offense to use the RBs in the pass offense. Saying Fournette and Stewart have underrated hands is meaningless when Stewart had 8, again 8 receptions in 13 games. Unless Shula evolves, the only thing our duo could potentially do is carry the ball more.

Also, please don't bring up delayed blitzes. I posted about that in the Tampa 2nd loss on how Stewart got abused by David on the delayed blitz because he went to help out the OL and then David came in for the sack. Delayed blitzes killed us all year. Again, if we don't evolve and actually send the backs out so Cam can dump it off on a delayed blitz, your assumption won't help. See the CJ Anderson TD week 1 where Siemian read TD on the blitz and once he came, dumped it off to help beat us. I've never seen us do that.

You are assuming that Shula want change his offense,but later part of the season showed Fozzy getting more involved in the receiving game.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/15755/fozzy-whittaker

Fozzy:

2014: 60yds 1TD         First Down: 2

2015: 65yds 0 TD        First Down: 2

2016: 226yds  0 TD    First Down: 10

That was more of miscomunication rather than  lack of talent,  which happens when the entire team is not in rythm & having  one of the worst OL. Overall Stewart has been good in blocking , but he needs a replacment that can carry the load and keep him fresh. 

Delayed Blitz worked because of Injury and lack of talent caused our OL to get "pancaked" or put on "skates"  that  created huge lanes for the "blitzer to get straight  hits on Cam. 

Ron mentioned of needing to "evolve" the offense and take the running game load off Cam, that is why DG needs  to invest in a RB like Fournette who has speed & power to take on more of the tradintal run game having played in similar scheme in college. This move amplifies the  strength of the interior OL with all 3 of  the lineman able to pull effectively. Instead of relying of zone reads, Panthers  can run a lot of power, toss, & sweeps with Fournette's ablity to move  in space & home run hitting ability the offense will be able to score in chunk plays.

[Ace_Aladdin]

7 hours ago, stbugs said:

Lot of info in there, yet you are proving none of your points.

First, showing Fozzie's increased workload is pretty meaningless when we he had 173 of those 265 rushing yards when Stewart got hurt in the SF game (Fozzie had 100 yards rushing that game since CAP was inactive) and missed the next 3 games. Saying Shula increased Fozzie's workload as scheme change is 100% inaccurate. Shula didn't change, Stewart was just out. Fozzie had 92 yards when Stewart was healthy, wow, what a change from 60 and 65 yards.

Second, your video isn't a delayed blitz. It looks more like an A-gap blitz by 41 with a twist behind the DT. See the link below, where Lavonte David isn't even on the line looking like a blitz. Once he sees Stewart ignore him to help the OL, he comes flying in and Stewart can't get to him. I'm not saying Stewart is bad, but that blitz was 100% on Stewart, not the OL, which you want to blame for everything.

http://www.buccaneers.com/videos/videos/Highlight-Lavonte-David-Sack/18ad46ff-2c89-498a-bbb9-ef1e0fe71753

Anyway, my biggest issue is that we never, ever use the RBs the way other teams do to slow down the pass rush. We put it all on the OL to sustain the blocks because the pass rushers don't care about Stewart (our starting RB). When Stewart has 8 receptions in 13 games, we literally take the dump off to the RB out of the equation and make it simpler for the D to rush Cam. Stewart had 47-413 1 TD receiving in Cam's rookie year, similar to the Atlanta duo, but that was pre-Shula with whom he's averaged 14 receptions per year.

First of all those are his receiving stats, which proves that Shula changed his scheme & adjusted to the delayed blitz, notice his first down production. 

The video of Remmers vs ATL was just to shows you that OL was  getting beat vs their regular man consistently, If Remmers didn't  whiff on the spin move , Cam would had enough time for a dump-off since the RB  was leaking out.

Stewart misread the blitz , if you watch the video #35 also comes in for the blitz, Norwell was going to help the Center out but he pealed-off to take on #35. But overall this season Stewart was a good blocker. 

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[uncfan888]

Why are you always tagging so many people in your threads? Fight your own battles.. no one else calls in back up

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22 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

Why are you always tagging so many people in your threads? Fight your own battles.. no one else calls in back up

Trying to fight all of your Alt accounts. 

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You guys are making things way more difficult than it needs to be..... 

Watch other teams lines when they get blitzed and watch Carolina's line when we get blitzed.  It's night and day.  

Even when GB started blitzing like crazy the Atlanta line held up.  Our line someone got beat consistently.  Wasn't always Remmers, wasn't always Wiliams or whomever was playing RT.   Other that Trai Turner everyone was getting beat.  Looked like Silatolu was playing again. 

We will be "DRAMATICALLY" improved once our Oline improves. period. 

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