Our Path Forward.... Free Agency and Draft

[Nails]

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2686418-2017-nfl-mock-draft-post-underclassmen-declaration-deadline/page/11

New Bleacher Report Mock has the nightmare scenario of favorites gone with Ramczyk the pick.  

[jumpman910]

21 minutes ago, stbugs said:

I would hope if we do pick a corner, it's a bit earlier than 4th/5th unless some drop far. The CB class is deep, but it is really, really top heavy, loaded with 1st/2nd rounders, so if you don't grab one early I don't think the depth will help you aside from potentially making some options available at 40 that wouldn't normally be there. That said, if they don't go as early, then you could see some solid ones maybe at 72?

Yeah this is true, I know people will flip if a corner is taken in the 2nd but hopefully some talent slips to the 3rd

[heel31ok]

2 hours ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

David Gettleman usually tries address each position of need in Free Agency.  Most are not to the liking of the forum, but he does try to address each of them justifying BPA in the draft.   It is a good philosophy and hopefully this year he'll drop some cash on some good upper tier Free Agents.

OT -  Matt Kalil.  Its a brother thing.  I think he would do well working with Ryan.

DT- Kawann Short,  I know he is our own but we need to do what we can to resign him.

S - Eric Berry,   Nothing else follows

If we somehow landed all three I would be ecstatic going into the draft.

From what I have read Barry is probably going to be tagged.

That said.  Both sides of the ball need to be addressed.  How much depends on who we sign or don't sign.  Oher is our incumbent LT and should return healthy.  Williams should take over the RT spot.  We'll be better in 2017 with these changes. Stewart has at least one left.

I look forward to the Senior Bowl and combine.   I am not nearly qualified to discuss college players (mostly because we just don't get enough games here to make a judgment)

I like Jeremy Picks with Adams leading the way (unless we somehow land Berry)

 

like it...

[heel31ok]

1 hour ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

You guys are fugging dreaming. We're not signing anyone as high profile as Berry. Maybe Kalil, but he's godawful. 

well thats a step up from Remmers...

[heel31ok]

35 minutes ago, Nails said:

http://www.1500espn.com/vikings-2/2017/01/10-free-agent-offensive-linemen-vikings-avoid/

The Vikings have no OL, a statue or a gimp for a QB, invested a top 5 pick on the guy, have no pick in the top 45, and still don't want him.  If Matt Kalil's name wasn't Matt Kalil, Matt Kalil's name wouldn't be mentioned on this board.  

If we think Oher is "OK" and/or Kalil is simply replacing Remmers, then meh, ok.

If we think Oher is not "OK" and/or Kalil is the one and only vet acquisition and we expect to plug and play him @LT without a hitch, then the potential unholy reign of terror the 2017 Panthers could deliver on this league may be over before it starts.

that just shows Kalil will not get the top $$$ ...a bargain lights up Gmans eyes...

[Riverboat Ron]

2 hours ago, Cracka McNasty said:

Berry to me is a pipe dream because I seriously doubt that KC let's him walk.

Our more realistic options at Safety are Cyprien from Jax or one of the two Safeties from AZ.

OT - Luke Joeckel is also a name you should expect on our short list. Tackle is the position that teams generally don't let go of if they're good, so any tackle available this offseason will be hella old and about to retire, or not very good, so there is most likely no long term solution for us to be found in FA.

Don't be surprised if we spend a decent bit of money on DE/pass rush specialists this offseason. There are going to be quite a few vets available that we might try to sign at lower contracts, as well as some bigger name guys we could go after too like JPP.

Carolina Jags

[DaveThePanther2008]

9 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

that just shows Kalil will not get the top $$$ ...a bargain lights up Gmans eyes...

It didn't work out too bad with Oher and along with big brother we might be able to get Matt without breaking the bank.  Worse case scenario we have better backup than 2016.

I believe he'll be much better with our offensive line staff and Ryan to slap some sense into little bro.

 

[jamos14]

1 hour ago, Nails said:

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2686418-2017-nfl-mock-draft-post-underclassmen-declaration-deadline/page/11

New Bleacher Report Mock has the nightmare scenario of favorites gone with Ramczyk the pick.  

Seems completely unrealistic.  There is not a single QB in Top 10.  I'd bet there is 2 at least.

[Nails]

6 minutes ago, jamos14 said:

Seems completely unrealistic.  There is not a single QB in Top 10.  I'd bet there is 2 at least.

I don't disagree but gotta prepare for doomsday.  The guy with the most upside, Josh Allen, is going back to school.  I'd like to think KK being tagged and traded for a 1st where we'd get Ramczyk anyway would be more likely than no QB in the top 10.

[heel31ok]

3 hours ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

It didn't work out too bad with Oher and along with big brother we might be able to get Matt without breaking the bank.  Worse case scenario we have better backup than 2016.

I believe he'll be much better with our offensive line staff and Ryan to slap some sense into little bro.

 

Yes,I like the plan...but we need to get a another one to develop...besides Williams