Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

2004 season and the Fox contrast


The Other Colbert

Recommended Posts

All I can think about lately is the contrast between how Fox dictated the team in 2004 and present.

We all remember the season that started out 1-7, much of everyone fearing another 1-15 record. But then Fox lit a fire under our players, many of which were not originally first stringers. The fight and will of the team to come back and just barely miss the playoffs.

Wishful thinking, is that Fox can do the same with this team. Though the season is young, I don't see any chemistry with Fox and his team. The players no longer seem 'hungry' or play with a chip on their shoulder. Fox cannot be the only one to blame, but what will it take?

The contrast between Fox's ability to inspire in the 2004 season and present is worrying. I just wanted to see what your opinions are on how things between then and now went wrong.

This is my first post, so be gentle.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

there's been a LOT of points beaten to death on this forum, but the 1-7 start in 04 doesn't seem to be one of them. it may not mean a whole lot by itself, as it'll depend - as you said - on fox's ability to light a fire under the players.

but what it means for the fans is we know there's still at least some semblance of hope for the season. we're a looooong way from 1-7. :D

good first post. stick around, we need legit huddle posters :cheers2:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

haha thanks :cheers2:

It's just troubling because last year with our 12-4 record everyone in the general NFL world considered Fox to be among one of the more elite, veteran, and smart coaches in the league. But its funny how these people's views change from season to season. I cannot dispute them because his inability to put back-to-back winning seasons together is strange (an understatement).

Remember in 2006 when we beat the Giants 23-0. Our players executed perfectly and the players on the Giants even admitted to being out coached. I cant remember if it was Shockey or Barber. But what happened to that?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

All I can think about lately is the contrast between how Fox dictated the team in 2004 and present.

We all remember the season that started out 1-7, much of everyone fearing another 1-15 record. But then Fox lit a fire under our players, many of which were not originally first stringers. The fight and will of the team to come back and just barely miss the playoffs.

Wishful thinking, is that Fox can do the same with this team. Though the season is young, I don't see any chemistry with Fox and his team. The players no longer seem 'hungry' or play with a chip on their shoulder. Fox cannot be the only one to blame, but what will it take?

The contrast between Fox's ability to inspire in the 2004 season and present is worrying. I just wanted to see what your opinions are on how things between then and now went wrong.

This is my first post, so be gentle.

Worth remembering that his "fire lighting" of that season came with eight games already gone, and half of game number nine already played.

It was halftime of the game against the 49ers, at the time one of the worst teams in the league, and we were losing. Fox blew his stack in the locker room, and the rest was history.

While I'm generally all for restraint and continually caution against early panic, I'd like to hope that if such a moment were to come this season, it would come a little sooner :sosp:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • I don't think Rodgers but probably not for the political reasons I bet a lot of posters are motivated by. I just think he is not the QB for the Panthers, at all. 
    • Sun Devils just scored another TD on BYU, 14-0
    • It wasn't great but  the 2022 NYG won 9 of 16 games plus a playoff game. He had a 92.5 passer rating. 15 pass TDs 3200 yards, 7 rushing TD, 700 yards 6 fumbles 3 lost.  His first season he had 18 fumbles lost 11. Wow.  Anyhow he had problems in 2023 with injuries and didn't win poo before tearing his ACL. This year, no Barkley, not good, but you know.... these ACLs take a while and it was right and he throws right so pushes off of it.  I agree it doesn't hurt to let that guy compete cheap. You don't hand him the job like with Bryce or NYG with him.  When I look at what we have been saddled with, he doesn't look worse and has the physical advantage. So I don't get the umbrage given our situation. This "No we won't settle for anything less that the best" attitude and then taking Bryce Young was pathetic and I think that attitude brought us to where we are. That's where that poo gets you. Away from Mayfield, away from Darnold, even away from PJ - just to replace them with an inferior PJ.  At the same time I am not really advocating for the guy just looking at it objectively. It could be another guy with the same story. And yes the odds of him getting it are low but the numbers and performance from 2022 are for sure better than we see with Bryce even after a season of major propping him up with better players around him. Take a look don't take a look he fails or he doesn't fail...   to instead sit here and be happier with what we have is bullshit. 
×
×
  • Create New...