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Watching these playoff team's offenses

tiger7_88

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KillerKat Grand Master

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1 minute ago, panther4life said:

The huddle tells itself so many lies so many times it starts to believe them. 1 of which is Shula being our biggest problem. 

Seattle fans are singing the same blues about their OC after they couldn't make adjustments yesterday to offset their outmatched o-line.

Patriot fans might be doing the same if Osweiller wasn't such a terrible QB. Even the great Bellicheat and Mcdaniels couldn't stop a superior d-line from harrassing Brady and causing him to match his season total Interceptions yesterday.

You're right. Running the ball every 1st down in a Super Bowl which limits the amount of attempts to make something happen downfield and becoming so predictable that a defense can tell you don't make any adjustments and can recognize what you are going to do before you do it is no big problem at all. And then following the same formula the following year while making no adjustments is no big deal either.

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I'll take a top 5 defense that can wear down opposing teams with a top 3 run game over a 500+ yard passing team any day. 

 

To do so we first have to stay healthy. Next we need a road grader at LT paired with a workhorse back along with a scat back and a blocking FB. On defense we need a run stopping, pass rushing DE, a coverage SS and a Nickelback.

 

This isn't easy to accomplish but do this and that team can beat every team in the NFL.

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Just now, Borat said:

Newton had by far the worst completion percentage of qualifying QBs -- the second worst was nearly 4 p.p. better. You can't blame that sort of statistical deviance on an OC. 

 

And perhaps Shula avoids calling for short, accurate passes for the same reason Kyle Shanahan doesn't call QB keepers for Matt Ryan. 

Matt Ryan has Julio Jones, Sanu, Coleman, Freeman, Tamme, Gabriel, and a wealth of receivers with solid hands.

Cam Newton has Olsen. The only one we have that runs routes and gets separation.

Reminds me of this article. Cam Newton is the highest (by far) QB that's forced ro throw in tight spaces because his receivers aren't swell at running routes.

Matt Ryan was borderline bad before he got Julio Jones. 

You realize your offensive scheme/method varies greatly with our simple look?

 

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Anyhow, I expect Aaron Rodgers to march through Atlanta.

I believe Dallas has a superior (by far) secondary than the Falcons, and a slightly worse front.

Other than that Dallas is better defensively than the Falcons.

Question is which team will score more points? Both defenses are garbage, both offenses are deadly.

Will be interesting.

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6 minutes ago, Riverboat Ron said:

I'll take a top 5 defense that can wear down opposing teams with a top 3 run game over a 500+ yard passing team any day. 

 

To do so we first have to stay healthy. Next we need at road grader at LT paired with a workhorse back along with a scat back and a blocking FB. On defense we need a run stopping, pass rushing DE, a coverage SS and a Nickelback.

 

This isn't easy to accomplish but do this and that team can beat every team in the NFL.

Blah blah blah. Girding your defense and girding your offense are not mutually exclusive.

All I know is, is that Adams, Montgomery and Janis are all dudes I wanted, and guys we likely could have had without upsetting our apple cart. Moreover, I got a little excited when it was reported we were interested in Cook last offseason (but I should have known nothing would come of it).

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15 minutes ago, Kakarot said:

Our offense also requires more intermediate and deep throws than these other offenses. I know you like taking shots at Cam, and he had a bad year, but if he's between 58 - 62% were good.

Tied at #2/3 with SD (but significantly behind ATL) in YPC. Yes, Cam is being asked to throw downfield a lot, but not so much more than the rest of the league to explain away his inaccuracy. And before you bring up YAC, looking only at air yards per attempt, he's not even top 10.

https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/quarterback-air-yards/2016/

Cam is many things, including excellent football player. But accurate QB isn't one of them, which is why you won't see him leading an offense in the mold of Atlanta's or GB's today so far (this isn't to say he can't be brutally effective, it'll just have to be different).

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Just now, Borat said:

Tied at #2/3 with SD (but significantly behind ATL) in YPC. Yes, Cam is being asked to throw downfield a lot, but not so much more than the rest of the league to explain away his inaccuracy. And before you bring up YAC, looking only at air yards per attempt, he's not even top 10.

https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/quarterback-air-yards/2016/

Cam is many things, including excellent football player. But accurate QB isn't one of them, which is why you won't see him leading an offense in the mold of Atlanta's or GB's today so far (this isn't to say he can't be brutally effective, it'll just have to be different).

He has been effective.

This year's an anomaly. He's been great prior years. This year, he's banged up.

2015 ring a bell? Superior offensively and defensively to your 2016 Falcons.

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3 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

He has been effective.

This year's an anomaly. He's been great prior years. This year, he's banged up.

2015 ring a bell? Superior offensively and defensively to your 2016 Falcons.

Defensively yes, offensively no way. Neither comparison particularly close.

2 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

Then again I'm arguing with a guy who thinks Matt Ryan is on the same level as Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, so why bother.

Keep inventing and beating up straw men.

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