What Mike Wallace has done in 2 games/ Dewayne Jarrett

[Kevin Greene]

How does Richard Williamson get 0 blame is my question.

You might be on to something here.

[Mr. Scot]

How does Richard Williamson get 0 blame is my question.

It's a valid one.

All the credit in the world for developing Steve Smith and Muhsin Muhammad, but outside of that what does he have to hang his Panthers hat on?

[scpanther22]

you guys really think regardless of who was drafted they would get any attention in our offense? with a healthy Steve and Moose on the field?

Nope..it does not matter who the #3 is....jake wont throw to him.lol

its also to the point were we can say the panthers just suck at developing WR

[jramsey4]

It's a valid one.

All the credit in the world for developing Steve Smith and Muhsin Muhammad, but outside of that what does he have to hang his Panthers hat on?

I will give him credit for Moose but I think Smith's success is more because of the fact that the man has mad love for this game. He has the biggest heart on this team. And I think that's what separates him from anyone else in this league.

[Mr. Scot]

I will give him credit for Moose but I think Smith's success is more because of the fact that the man has mad love for this game. He has the biggest heart on this team. And I think that's what separates him from anyone else in this league.

I can see that, and I'd also have to give some (unintentional) credit to Marty Hurney.

Back when Smith was getting ready to come off his rookie contract, somewhere in the discussion of a possible extension Marty Hurney referred to Smith as "unproven". At the time, it was a valid description, but "unproven" wasn't the word that was relayed back to Smith by his agent.

Instead, Smith was told that he'd been described by Hurney as "marginal" :sosp:

Smith's ego being what it is, he didn't take kindly to the supposed comment. The record was eventually set straight and Smith was re-signed, but I'm not sure the chip ever came off his shoulder.

And thus, you have the Steve Smith of today.

[jramsey4]

I can see that, and I'd also have to give some (unintentional) credit to Marty Hurney.

Back when Smith was getting ready to come off his rookie contract, somewhere in the discussion of a possible extension Marty Hurney referred to Smith as "unproven". At the time, it was a valid description, but "unproven" wasn't the word that was relayed back to Smith by his agent.

Instead, Smith was told that he'd been described by Hurney as "marginal" :sosp:

Smith's ego being what it is, he didn't take kindly to the supposed comment. The record was eventually set straight and Smith was re-signed, but I'm not sure the chip ever came off his shoulder.

And thus, you have the Steve Smith of today.

Exactly, Smith's sucess' is more a result of his tenacity and fire then because of coaching. Best pick we have ever made by far. He was a 3rd round pick and is IMO the best WR in the league.

[Dpantherman]

Is there a part on this coacing staff that anyone is happy with? i know Im getting angry with ST, D-line, WRs, QB, DC... The running backs and offensive line are carrying the work load in my eyes. We have yet to develop a WR since steve smith. that has to speak volumes about this staff

[jramsey4]

Is there a part on this coacing staff that anyone is happy with? i know Im getting angry with ST, D-line, WRs, QB, DC... The running backs and offensive line are carrying the work load in my eyes. We have yet to develop a WR since steve smith. that has to speak volumes about this staff

I don't even think our Oline has played up to expectations either especially the 1st game.

[Fox007]

Players it's often wise to avoid in the draft...

- Michigan runningbacks

- Florida quarterbacks

- USC wide receivers

Agreed, as much as I like The Golden Calf of Bristol, no way we draft him.

I would be fine with no USC WR's anymore as well.

[Mr. Scot]

Exactly, Smith's sucess' is more a result of his tenacity and fire then because of coaching. Best pick we have ever made by far. He was a 3rd round pick and is IMO the best WR in the league.

I'm trying to remember who the Pro Bowl coaching staff was one of the years he went as a return guy. He went up to an offensive coach (WR coach maybe) and offered to play receiver, and the guy dismissed him, telling him to go back with the special teamers.

[jramsey4]

I'm trying to remember who the Pro Bowl coach was the year he went as a return guy. he went up to the guy and offered to play receiver, and the guy dismissed him, telling him to go back with the special teamers.

That would give me a chip on the shoulder as well.

[MemphisGambler]

Has done in 3 Y-E-A-R-S.

Mike Wallace 2 games=12 catches

Dewayne Jarrett 3 yrs= 17 catches

Not to mention, Pierre Garcon, Round 6, throws a vicious stiffarm as well

[Fox007]

Not to mention, Pierre Garcon, Round 6, throws a vicious stiffarm as well

He does look good, but there is always Manning to consider.

[Mr. Scot]

Agreed, as much as I like The Golden Calf of Bristol, no way we draft him.

I would be fine with no USC WR's anymore as well.

Said it before. The Golden Calf of Bristol is one of the nicest kids to ever play the game, but his profile just doesn't translate well to being an NFL QB.

He's a superior athlete, but that doesn't necessarily make him a good quarterback.