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Fournette Is the only correct answer If he is there at 8

micnificent28

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9 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

I have read a few reports indicating that Fournette might not be the first running back taken.  Dalvin Cook might be taken ahead of him.  But it does seem that Fournette would match our needs a little better.  He appears to have a better ability to break tackles than Cook does.

 

would you rather have Blount or McCoy?  I get why many like Cook better because he can do more.  Cook can stay involved in games where a Fournette might have to get off the field (down and needing to get away from the run Cook remains a threat or just vs a stellar run D where banging a RB all game isn't doing anything)

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1 hour ago, CRA said:

also..I don't want a WR but a first round WR would at best be our #3 WR if Ginn is gone?  Huh? Ginn Jr is our best overall WR and he SUCKS be NFL standards.  A top notch rookie WR could easily jump KB and Fun Fun as an OVERALL WR.  Ginn jumped them and Ginn doesn't see the field on just about every team not named Carolina.

Yeah, I noticed that and wasn't buying that either. The way our receiving core is managed, I could see a receiver coming in and making a greater impact than what we already have, and it could be just what's necessary anyway.

 

What I also am not buying is that the need for DE is any more critical than any other positions of need. Our rush, albeit maybe a little schemed, was effective when the players began to gel. So perhaps we can and should take someone who drops in order to shore up other needs at the top if the draft. Don't get me wrong, an effective edge rusher is always welcome, but we can't afford to miss like we arguably did with Ealy (and, yes, I realize it was a round 2 miss---still not good).

The last thing that I think is kind of off the mark is the belief that we can't get a safety---whether free or strong---that will be more effective than Boston on day two or three. The pool at the position is just better than when we drafted Boston. I have my eyes on Fish Smithson, Buddha Baker and Obi Melifonwu.

 

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1 hour ago, CRA said:

would you rather have Blount or McCoy?  I get why many like Cook better because he can do more.  Cook can stay involved in games where a Fournette might have to get off the field (down and needing to get away from the run Cook remains a threat or just vs a stellar run D where banging a RB all game isn't doing anything)

Well, if you are asking, I would rather have the Dallas offensive line than either one  :)

 

The real questions regarding Fournette and Cook and pretty much any other rb in the draft are will they be able to play at the NFL level, and if they can, will our coaches and offensive line be able to take advantage of their abilities?  If they can both play, then either one could be effective for us if the oline is good enough and the coaching staff knows how to use them.

 

In other words, I don't really care as long as whomever we pick can play and we use him correctly.

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1 hour ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

It's very likely that we're gonna draft a safety. We've got three options now (unless some hyperbolic idiot claims all three will go in the Top 7... as usual). Rivera has been dying to draft one for the longest. 

We got the possibly the next Earl Thomas (Hooker), Kam Chancellor (Adams) and Eric Berry (Peppers) to choose from.

If we end up liking all three of them it might present an opportunity for us to trade down.

2 hours ago, CRA said:

Of the top 10 rushers in 2016.....ONE was a first round pick (and that guy has undisputed best OL in the NFL).

This isn't 1980.  Teams aren't getting there rush games in the tops of drafts anymore.  There will be tons of opportunity in this draft to boost our run game without using a top draft pick. 

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great point...also the second one on the list was another rookie, Jordan Howard, who was picked 150th.

His yards per attempt was actually a little higher then Elliot's.  He just got less carries

I totally understand the infatuation with him but at some point you have to be disciplined and trust history.  Also from an asset allocation standpoint you aren't getting the same cap value out of a 1st round running back as you would other positions.

If certain players are off the board he might be the logical pick, I'm not saying reach for someone else just to avoid taking him, but I think there should be a pretty good option at that point in the draft. 

Also a trade down wouldn't really upset me. After it is all said and done I think there are going to be 3-5 players in the top tier of a lot of boards.  After that the next group will probably be 5-10 players all rated kind of close.  I think someone is going to get a really good player in this draft in the 10-15 range.

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3 hours ago, Cuttinedge said:

I don't like the fact that our olines run blocking has been abysmal. How will Fournette do when he engages defenders 2-3 yards deep in his own backfield. Against Alabama and several other sec schools he's been nonexistent I'm not sold on him as the clearcut 8th pick. 

Lets see we could draft Fournette at 8 then what safety do we get in the 2nd round that would actually be a upgrade over what we have. Where as we could draft Jamal Adams at 8 and then get Freeman in the 2nd which is a major upgrade from Cap Tolbert and Fozzy

correct... more opportunities at RB than S ...but taking Fournette will be fine if we bolster the line ...to me its obvious either way we need to keep Stewart...

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1 hour ago, top dawg said:

Yeah, I noticed that and wasn't buying that either. The way our receiving core is managed, I could see a receiver coming in and making a greater impact than what we already have, and it could be just what's necessary anyway.

 

What I also am not buying is that the need for DE is any more critical than any other positions of need. Our rush, albeit maybe a little schemed, was effective when the players began to gel. So perhaps we can and should take someone who drops in order to shore up other needs at the top if the draft. Don't get me wrong, an effective edge rusher is always welcome, but we can't afford to miss like we arguably did with Ealy (and, yes, I realize it was a round 2 miss---still not good).

The last thing that I think is kind of off the mark is the belief that we can't get a safety---whether free or strong---that will be more effective than Boston on day two or three. The pool at the position is just better than when we drafted Boston. I have my eyes on Fish Smithson, Buddha Baker and Obi Melifonwu.

 

I wouldn't complain about Mike Williams coming in...

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1 hour ago, Hammerin'Cameron1 said:

lol

Ezekiel Elliott is leading league in rushing yards, he was 4th overall pick

Jordan Howard is 2nd in the league in rushing yards, he was the 150th overall pick

lol

wanting a RB in top 10 lol lol lolololol

Jordan Howard didn't even start the season as their starter.  The fact Elliot is the only first rounder in the top 10 is a testament to how rusher can now be found much much later than years ago....and none of those other rushers have the top OL

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