Dalvin Cook or Jamal Adams in the 1st?

[Mistuh Jones]

4 hours ago, 4Corners said:

Cook is a woman beater 

The case was thrown out. Plus he is returning for his SR. Year inexplicably

[FootballLivesMatter]

Jamal Adams is the clear cut favorite 

[chknwing]

Carolina isnt drafting a rb in the 1st. #nothappening. Its either OT DE SS.

[ncfan]

Adams is a no brainer.  A dude with his instincts jumping into a zone D is Huge.   Kid calls the plays for LSU's D much like all MLBs do.  That leaderships and football knowledge added to this young secondary can turn this secondary night and day.

 

Cook could be good in certain offenses.  No way here.  Living down here in south florida and my gf is a FSU alum/seminol club donor, I catch my fair share of FSU games (headed to the orange bowl tomorrow).  FSU has had Alabama type massive NFL OL that Tolbert today could get 1,000 yards running through.  Cook get his name out there for bursting through those huge holes with his speed for long gains.  He IS one of the better receiving RBs coming out mainly due to his speed.  But we dont use RBs like that.  Heck there was a thread here recently where we were at the bottom of the league in RB receiving targets.  He's Chris Johnson 2.0, blazing speed whos going to make people drool at the combine with a 4.3-4.2, small little power.

 

Give me Foreman or even Perine over Cook in our offense everyday.

[Rags]

41 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

Our offense goes to poo because our o line is trash. Demarco went to philly and what happened? A "first round talent" rb is a wasted pick these days unless you have a top notch offensive line. I've already pointed out that CAP actually averages more yards per carry than Stewart. 

Hey wow yeah our entire offense took a step back this year INCLUDING our o-line which was ravaged by injuries? This happened last year and the year before when Stew went down our offense stalled.

Second, the Eagles o-line wasn't the problem as much as the way they used Murray. They used him as an east-west runner because lol Chip Kelly. He's not that. He's a downhill power back. There's a reason Ryan Matthews does well for them, when healthy. On top of that, backs like AP and Lynch have shown you can suceede with less than average o-lines. Worth noting though! That every other HB behind Tenesse's great O-line the past year has fuging sucked. HB talent matters fam.

Finally Wow The HB With 36 Carries Has A Higher YPC Average Than The One With 198 (even then its only .2 so, lol you're reaching bruh)

If you really think CAP is our future and is on the same level as Fournette, Cook, Mcafney or, literally any HB in the first two rounds of this draft then lol

[Bronn]

58 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

What I see from Cam Robinson is a guy who would be a second rounder at best last year. He's overrated due to such a depleted tackle class.

I wouldn't draft a tackle this year expecting a starter. I'd be ticked off if that's the case.

This!

Cam Robinson is an OKAY pass blocker and terrible run blocker... Any other year he'd be a 2nd or third rounder.

He's pretty much no better than a third or 4th tier replacement with experience that we could get on the FA market for near vet minimum.

[Bronn]

10 minutes ago, chknwing said:

Carolina isnt drafting a rb in the 1st. #nothappening. Its either OT DE SS.

DE or SS could happen. OT won't. RB very well could, especially if our plans are like I'm thinking, and Stewart gets the axe. It'd be a little early for DE once the top couple are off the board. Peppers and Adams could very well be the BPA when we pick. But don't count out RB.

[Rags]

31 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

And how's he doing out there in LA?

Yeah turns out when you're the Only Respected Offensive Weapon besides sometimes Tavon Austin people can just stack the box.

LA is a dumpster fire and has no talent on offense besides Gurley.

[Bronn]

7 minutes ago, Rags said:

Hey wow yeah our entire offense took a step back this year INCLUDING our o-line which was ravaged by injuries? This happened last year and the year before when Stew went down our offense stalled.

Second, the Eagles o-line wasn't the problem as much as the way they used Murray. They used him as an east-west runner because lol Chip Kelly. He's not that. He's a downhill power back. There's a reason Ryan Matthews does well for them, when healthy. On top of that, backs like AP and Lynch have shown you can suceede with less than average o-lines. Worth noting though! That every other HB behind Tenesse's great O-line the past year has fuging sucked. HB talent matters fam.

Finally Wow The HB With 36 Carries Has A Higher YPC Average Than The One With 198 (even then its only .2 so, lol you're reaching bruh)

If you really think CAP is our future and is on the same level as Fournette, Cook, Mcafney or, literally any HB in the first two rounds of this draft then lol

Fozzy and CAP are both better than Cook. McCaffrey is a gimmicky guy IMHO, but will have a shot at decent career as a spot duty guy. Fournette and Foreman are the types of guys we will be looking hard at.

[chknwing]

1 minute ago, Bronn said:

DE or SS could happen. OT won't. RB very well could, especially if our plans are like I'm thinking, and Stewart gets the axe. It'd be a little early for DE once the top couple are off the board. Peppers and Adams could very well be the BPA when we pick. But don't count out RB.

Keeping stewart for another year is going to be the cheapest option.  Why would cut him and bring in a rookie that would make more.

[Bronn]

Just now, chknwing said:

Keeping stewart for another year is going to be the cheapest option.  Why would cut him and bring in a rookie that would make more.

because

A. a rookie wouldn't make more...

B. youth

C. injury history

D. a rookie wouldn't make more...

Stewart will count a total of 8.something million against the cap next year.

If we cut him, we will get about 4.75 million of that to use elsewhere.

A pick in the range of 9-14 will only cost us about 3.5 - 2.75 million next year. That'll give us an extra million in space to put towards other positions we need to improve upon.

Heck, we could cut Stewart and sign a younger successful guy like Latavius Murray and still put a million dollars in the bank.

I'm as sentimental about JStew as anyone, but holding on to players because of sentimental feelings isn't good business, nor, as demonstrated, is it the Gettleman way.

[Rags]

4 minutes ago, Bronn said:

Fozzy and CAP are both better than Cook. McCaffrey is a gimmicky guy IMHO, but will have a shot at decent career as a spot duty guy. Fournette and Foreman are the types of guys we will be looking hard at.

While I don't think Cook fits our offnese, he is undoubtably more talented than CAP, and is a better Runner than Fozzy, Fozzy is the better reveiver, hands down.

McCaffrey is far from gimmicky, and the only thing stopping him from being an every down back is his Weight. He carried Stanford last year. He's legit.

That said though, Fournette is the only one of the three I want in the top 10. He's a punishing bulldozer he can do it all, and I would love for him to be in black and blue 

[zacka77ack]

Adams won't be available. He will be chosen before Peppers.

[Bronn]

Just now, zacka77ack said:

Adams won't be available. He will be chosen before Peppers.

This is very possible, actually.

Peppers is more the raw athlete with potential. Adams is more the starting-capable zone Safety. Both should be pretty damned good pros, though.