Why The Hell Do We Keep Talking About "TE"?

[FootballLivesMatter]

13 minutes ago, Bartin said:

How on earth do you know that? Were you in the draft room? Every report before and after the draft had Butler really high on Getlleman's board. BPA is best player in Gettleman's opinion, not best player in your or anyone else's opinion.

Everybody know that Butler was drafted bc of KK 

[Harbingers]

1 minute ago, FootballLivesMatter said:

Everybody know that Butler was drafted either to replace KK or for leverage 

Or because he was BPA and rotational?

[top dawg]

6 minutes ago, FootballLivesMatter said:

I don't see TE at this point for next year draft as BPA. 

CB and RB would be considered BPA. Check the projected players coming out for next season first before talking. It's loaded with CBs and RBs. Not much talents there at TE. Taking one in the 2nd or 3rd, I can see. Not one in the damn top 15. We could probably get OJ Howard who is he best TE currently with our 2nd round. That's saying a lot. TE is not BPA.

I don't see us taking a TE in the first round at the moment (hell, we passed on Henry this year), but there are workouts and the Combine to consider, so things can change. Moreover, can I see a scenario where Howard or Butt are deemed the BPA? Sure I can.

[Mojo]

4 minutes ago, FootballLivesMatter said:

Leave you out? You voluntarily threw yourself on here

That's because I already said the other needs weren't negated and you keep saying the same thing over and over.

[FootballLivesMatter]

3 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Or because he was BPA and rotational?

Oh yea but we signed Soliai and bright Love back? 

[FootballLivesMatter]

Just now, Mojo said:

That's because I already said the other needs weren't negated and you keep saying the same thing over and over.

QB shouldn't be negated too

[FootballLivesMatter]

3 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I don't see us taking a TE in the first round at the moment (hell, we passed on Henry this year), but there are workouts and the Combine to consider, so things can change. Moreover, can I see a scenario where Howard or Butt are deemed the BPA? Sure I can.

I can see the scenarios you're talking about. It's every year fools like you talk about on here: trade back, trade back, trade back, and trade back. Keep trading back add 20 picks like BB and NE. Then take Howard or Butt. It ain't happening son. 

[Swaggasaurus]

We do need a SS, RB, DE, and OT. However you aren't going to hear anyone talking about OT prospects. The draft has 2 round 1-2 talent guys and then just a bunch of guys.

[CRA]

1 hour ago, FootballLivesMatter said:

When we need not "one" BUT "two" OTs. 

When we need not "one" BUT possibly "two" DEs. 

When we need a strong safety. 

When we need another cornerback.

When we probably need to start looking at Stewart's replacement.

 

because we are dangerously thin at TE?

because being able to legitimately run 2 TEs sets allows you to scheme your offense differently and provide aid to an OL/QB and offense as a whole.

and this isn't the draft to fix your OT needs.  So TE is a position of need and BPA out of positions of need could easily put us in position to get a TE.

 

 

 

[FootballLivesMatter]

6 minutes ago, Swaggasaurus said:

We do need a SS, RB, DE, and OT. However you aren't going to hear anyone talking about OT prospects. The draft has 2 round 1-2 talent guys and then just a bunch of guys.

Cam Robinson name has to be in the conversation. We have passed up on OTs in the last 3 drafts? Cam is our highest paid player and the face of this franchise. At some point Gman will have to protect him. 

Cam Robinson has a lot of question marks but you go and look at his game vs Texas A&M and Garrett. There's a lot to like. Played like a top 10 pick. 

If he play well in the College Playoff and keep his nose clean til the draft, his stock will only rise.

[top dawg]

24 minutes ago, FootballLivesMatter said:

I can see the scenarios you're talking about. It's every year fools like you talk about on here: trade back, trade back, trade back, and trade back. Keep trading back add 20 picks like BB and NE. Then take Howard or Butt. It ain't happening son. 

You're all over the place and shortsighted, and shouldn't be referring to anyone as a fool from where I sit.

I didn't say anything about trading back, nor have I ever. The only thing I have ever said about moving inasmuch as it relates to the draft is that I would be reluctant to trade up unless you believe that you're moving up to get a surefire talent (or as sure as can be given it's ultimately a guessing game). I have never championed moving down or up.

Just because the only way that you apparently see us acquiring a top-end TE is in a scenario which involves moving down is your problem. Just because you don't see how a Howard or Butt (or any player) can increase their draft stock considerably with good workouts, and/or  a great showing at the NFL Combine, that's your issue. Moreover, you saw the Bolts draft Hunter Henry, with decidedly positive results, early in the second round in this year's draft. Perhaps if you didn't have such tunnel vision, you could see a scenario where a TE is taken in the second round of next year's draft (without anyone moving up or down). It's too early in the draft season (which really hasn't even started) to set any opinion in stone in reference to a player's value, especially one that already is perceived a top player at his position.

[FootballLivesMatter]

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

because we are dangerously thin at TE?

because being able to legitimately run 2 TEs sets allows you to scheme your offense differently and provide aid to an OL/QB and offense as a whole.

and this isn't the draft to fix your OT needs.  So TE is a position of need and BPA out of positions of need could easily put us in position to get a TE.

 

 

 

With a possible top15 pick? And currently the 9th pick? You take a TE, let's say OJ Howard who is projected to go in the late 1st? 

[CRA]

1 minute ago, FootballLivesMatter said:

With a possible top15 pick? And currently the 9th pick? You take a TE, let's say OJ Howard who is projected to go in the late 1st? 

not saying use the first on any specific position.  Just that TE is a need and this is a weak OT draft class.

Gettlemen needs to start going legit BPA out of positions of need and STOP draft the BPA in the first out of his PREFERED positions.  He keeps it up and we are going to get even weaker overall.

[Harbingers]

31 minutes ago, FootballLivesMatter said:

Oh yea but we signed Soliai and bright Love back? 

You need more than one rotation?