Todd McShay: Fournette drops to 7, will be a Carolina Panther.

[Captain Morgan]

1 minute ago, mikeholiday said:

I don't think he will last to 7. He is a better prospect than Elliot and Gurley were and I can't see 6 teams passing on him. 

we gotta hope the QB's blow up the combine.

[SOJA]

1 minute ago, Captain Morgan said:

we gotta hope the QB's blow up the combine.

This, we need Kizer, Watson and Mitch to all ball out

 

I know Kizer didn't have a great year, but I could see a team falling in love with his physique. Coming from a UNC fan I wouldn't draft Mitch, but I'm praying a QB needy team falls in love with his deep ball. 

[electro's horse]

22 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

Fournette isn't getting pass the jags 

They just drafted yeldon. 

Have some words. .

Leonard Fournette - LSU 
What's there to say about a back whose been hyped as the next Peterson since he was 16? You can watch his film and see every possible thing the NFL could ask of him whether that's running power blocking with a hard first step or waiting in zone then cutting immediately into a hole. It's always DEs that get their first steps talked about since it often describes how fast you get over the line, but RBs really need it even moreso considering it dictates whether or not they're getting to a block in progress or after a lineman can disengage. His top-end speed for a back playing around 225-230 is impressive. Realistically, you don't need more top-end speed out of him, since the only guys catching him at that point are giving up 30 pounds to him. and might be out of position from the start depending on how his receivers block. I also love his power which really just seems to be a product of him always being the low man at contact and will probably keep him from any crazy upper-body injuries at the next level. When he gets up to speed, you do not want to be the one man in his way because he can go both through you and around you. He's shown pretty solid hands out of the backfield, though he rounds routes off a lot since LBs just don't cover him well. That'll have to get some work at the next level, but the thought of him running a wheel route at speed with precision is jaw dropping. The one thing I really don't like right now is his blocking ability. LSU didn't ask him to do it a lot, but he got by in those situations on pure physicality rather than any good technique. As a result, he's going to limit your play-action ability and be an initial tell as to whether you're willing to run in certain situations. His durability will be a concern too since he's had nagging leg injuries that are a bit concerning for a young RB. He didn't pick up quite the burn expected this year as a result, but his physicals will be extremely important. If I were a team in the top 7-8 with an established or recently drafted QB, I pick him every time. He'll draw the Peterson comparisons in terms of his potential as a prospect, but I think his actual playing style and likely projection is a bit closer to Steven Jackson who was a similar back in terms of physical ability but ran at a much lower pad level and was much more useful as a receiving threat at the expense of below average blocking.

[mikeholiday]

1 minute ago, Captain Morgan said:

we gotta hope the QB's blow up the combine.

Maybe so. Teams would have to be stupid to take any qb in the top 15 this year. But then again, there is a reason they are picking so high to begin with haha

[GoobyPls]

4 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

They just drafted yeldon. 

Have some words. .

Leonard Fournette - LSU 
What's there to say about a back whose been hyped as the next Peterson since he was 16? You can watch his film and see every possible thing the NFL could ask of him whether that's running power blocking with a hard first step or waiting in zone then cutting immediately into a hole. It's always DEs that get their first steps talked about since it often describes how fast you get over the line, but RBs really need it even moreso considering it dictates whether or not they're getting to a block in progress or after a lineman can disengage. His top-end speed for a back playing around 225-230 is impressive. Realistically, you don't need more top-end speed out of him, since the only guys catching him at that point are giving up 30 pounds to him. and might be out of position from the start depending on how his receivers block. I also love his power which really just seems to be a product of him always being the low man at contact and will probably keep him from any crazy upper-body injuries at the next level. When he gets up to speed, you do not want to be the one man in his way because he can go both through you and around you. He's shown pretty solid hands out of the backfield, though he rounds routes off a lot since LBs just don't cover him well. That'll have to get some work at the next level, but the thought of him running a wheel route at speed with precision is jaw dropping. The one thing I really don't like right now is his blocking ability. LSU didn't ask him to do it a lot, but he got by in those situations on pure physicality rather than any good technique. As a result, he's going to limit your play-action ability and be an initial tell as to whether you're willing to run in certain situations. His durability will be a concern too since he's had nagging leg injuries that are a bit concerning for a young RB. He didn't pick up quite the burn expected this year as a result, but his physicals will be extremely important. If I were a team in the top 7-8 with an established or recently drafted QB, I pick him every time. He'll draw the Peterson comparisons in terms of his potential as a prospect, but I think his actual playing style and likely projection is a bit closer to Steven Jackson who was a similar back in terms of physical ability but ran at a much lower pad level and was much more useful as a receiving threat at the expense of below average blocking.

So what? The also signed Ivory this offseason. It's obvious they don't believe in Yeldon.

[nctarheel0619]

14 minutes ago, SOJA said:

This, we need Kizer, Watson and Mitch to all ball out

 

I know Kizer didn't have a great year, but I could see a team falling in love with his physique. Coming from a UNC fan I wouldn't draft Mitch, but I'm praying a QB needy team falls in love with his deep ball. 

He's accurate man.  So, I could see him getting drafted early, somewhere.  

[FootballLivesMatter]

Adams or Fournette

[AceBoogie]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

Watson post Pitt game finally looks like the Watson I thought would represent all season.  Can't figure it out but something had been off with him all season.  He was still ballling but there was always a tad off all season.   That hurt his stock IMO.  His downfield throws most of this season had been consistently iffy.  I know he had a lot of Ginn type drops but his ball placement downfield was off.

It's the idgaf I'm only here for one more season and the only thing that matters doesn't start until damn near 2017 syndrome. He'll be fine

[Nick_81]

1 hour ago, nctarheel0619 said:

My opinion, you can't go wrong with Cook, Foreman, Fournette, and McCaffrey.  I even think Joe Mixon from OU would be a good get as well.  Phenomenal receiver out of the backfield.  

If I drafted McCaffrey, I wouldn't use him as a back in our system.  I think it would be a waste of his talent.  I'd put him in the slot full-time, and I think he'd be a stud there.  Some WCO will use him as a back, and he'll probably be a stud there as well.

[Delhommey]

Why not Cook?

[Rastlet]

Personally I'm on the Mike Williams train.

[Anybodyhome]

Watson is the #5 QB and graded out as a 2nd or 3rd rounder. 

It would be interesting to see what Carolina does if Kizer is sitting there when the Panthers go on the clock. A couple teams I can think of would be willing to trade a few picks for him if Carolina wanted to dangle him on the end of a hook. 

[Catufb85]

IMO my perfect scenario is either Myles Garrett, Leonard Fournette, or Jamal Adams.  Unless something happens unexpected and the QBs dominate the combine I don't see Garrett or Allen falling to us.  I think a Fournette pick is a game changer.  Adams would be the lockdown safety we've needed for years now. 

My feeling is anyone we would be looking at at our pick will mostly likely be gone.  I think there isn't a top 10 LT.  If Adams, Fournette, and the stud DEs are gone.  I would trade back into the teens pick up a 2nd and 3rd rounder draft D'Onta Freeman, Royce Freeman, etc. in later rounds.  Could still potentially get Adams in the teens or Dalvin Cook in the teens.

[2jakefansinva]

3 hours ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

That's kind of where we're at right now man. :/ We ain't going to the playoffs. 

Hey......not against discussing possible players or needs but,

to be throwing out mocks is ridiculous