Am I the only one who thinks an 8-8 finish should cost Rivera his job?

[CRA]

Strong finish and literally no coaches will be leaving.

not when we have such obvious talent issues that hindered our season 

[truthjuice]

I don't know that it would. Last year alone and the injuries probably saved the shitshow he's coached this year. I don't even know if he would be on the hot seat. I think he's a good man, okay coach. Time to move on. They've taken us as far as we can go with them. 

[tiger7_88]

29 minutes ago, top dawg said:

When we draft an actual difference maker or two (or three) , hire a new OC, and make a legit move in free agency this coming offseason, you will see that it makes all the difference in the world. Rivera will be a legit COTY candidate yet again. Rivera's history has proven that  that's the higher likelihood. 

Rivera's history is being turned down for head coaching jobs.  Repeatedly.

"History" will probably prove that those other teams knew what they were doing much more so than JR and Hurney.

[tiger7_88]

19 minutes ago, Pimpdaddy said:

....if you get rid of Riv whos out there that is better...i think we can do better at OC tho

See, there's the thing.

I am fully of the opinion with 100% confidence that what we do on offense is EXACTLY what Ron Rivera wants to have done on offense.

So, with that line of thinking, a change of OC will be nothing but a change in name only.

[Pimpdaddy]

1 minute ago, tiger7_88 said:

See, there's the thing.

I am fully of the opinion with 100% confidence that what we do on offense is EXACTLY what Ron Rivera wants to have done on offense.

So, with that line of thinking, a change of OC will be nothing but a change in name only.

yea...i kinda get it...but whos out there thats better...josh McDaniels...lol

[Cj72]

Firing a coach the year after he was named coach of the year and reached the sb would be some browns or chargers poo and we see how that's worked for them. Having said that, I'm quickly losing faith in the coaches and if the head scratching decisions and lack of discipline continue, I wouldn't be be totally against a change next year.

[top dawg]

7 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

Rivera's history is being turned down for head coaching jobs.  Repeatedly.

"History" will probably prove that those other teams knew what they were doing much more so than JR and Hurney.

No one is thinking about ancient history. I would bet that Rivera would easily be picked up as a Head Coach in a hot minute now that he has a decidedly positive track record as an HC. Moreover, he is still a player's coach and an ex-player himself.

 

[pstall]

Can't fire Ron this year. See how he and the rest of the staff work with some new toys after we spend some bigger money this offseason. 

[Khyber53]

I sure don't want us to jettison Ron for this season. As bad as it has been, there isn't anyone out there lurking with a better pedigree. And three playoff appearances in a row, an overall winning record, Coach of the Year accolades twice, and that whole 15-1 season with a Superb Owl appearance last year... I'm thinking the guy is owed another chance.

I mean, you aren't seriously thinking that you'd like to wade into the HC market when Rex and Rob Ryan might be the most experienced candidates, do you?

[bigdog10]

2 hours ago, jtm said:

From coach of the year to fired would be an epic fail and we'd be the laughing stock of sports.


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Kind of like going from MVP to completing less than 50% of your passes the last couple weeks

or, being the first team ever to win 15 games in one year only to follow it up with anything less than 11 the next. 

We are already the laughing stock of the league this year. 

[Darvinsun]

I would say fire Ron but just maybe lets just rid ourselves of Shula firstbut then again lets fire both. Get new blood in they say we are rebuilding mode anyway. If Ron had improved on his poor game management skills, lack of faith in offense, then I would say keep him...He is to blame in many losses we have had just in that aspect..last yr was the same its just the team had scored enough points to pull it out or someone on defense made a stop...its not happening this year and his decisions have cost us wins...yes players have not executed well but the lack of faith he presents in his MVP qb is remarkable...i think Cam sees this as well. Even with Luke out he still goes defense first just like the draft...I like him but he is not a good in game decision maker...6yrs we have been seeing this..time to move on...if we survive Ron we should be able to survive another coach..the goal is to win a SB not just be runner ups.

[top dawg]

2 minutes ago, Darvinsun said:

I would say fire Ron but just maybe lets just rid ourselves of Shula firstbut then again lets fire both. Get new blood in they say we are rebuilding mode anyway. If Ron had improved on his poor game management skills, lack of faith in offense, then I would say keep him...He is to blame in many losses we have had just in that aspect..last yr was the same its just the team had scored enough points to pull it out or someone on defense made a stop...its not happening this year and his decisions have cost us wins...yes players have not executed well but the lack of faith he presents in his MVP qb is remarkable...i think Cam sees this as well. Even with Luke out he still goes defense first just like the draft...I like him but he is not a good in game decision maker...6yrs we have been seeing this..time to move on...if we survive Ron we should be able to survive another coach..the goal is to win a SB not just be runner ups.

The Steelers have plenty of hardware. Part of the reason why is they are anything but a knee-jerk organization that fires head coaches for having a down year. They see the big picture, put a premium on coaching continuity, and as a result have arguably been the most successful franchise in the Super Bowl era. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, tiger7_88 said:

Rivera's history is being turned down for head coaching jobs.  Repeatedly.

"History" will probably prove that those other teams knew what they were doing much more so than JR and Hurney.

Plus teams that fade in the second half (because opponents make adjustments and we don't) and teams that start slow each season (because we don't run a good training camp).

Those things - and more - have been characteristics of every year under Rivera, including the Hurney years and including last year.

[Craig Pruitt]

2 hours ago, tiger7_88 said:

See, there's the thing.

I am fully of the opinion with 100% confidence that what we do on offense is EXACTLY what Ron Rivera wants to have done on offense.

So, with that line of thinking, a change of OC will be nothing but a change in name only.

Rivera definitely needs to change his offensive philosophy. For some reason many defensive minded HC's always seem to have bland offenses. Dungy had the problem in Tampa Bay. Rex Ryan's teams have had the problems as well.  Belichek is an exception. He seems to understand that a potent offense complements a stout defense.

Rivera needs to encourage/allow Shula to step up his game or bring in someone else. He also needs some help from the FO. If he wants a team with a stout running game the FO needs to give him a better run blocking OL and a consistent back capable of playing 16 games. J. Stewart is great when he's healthy, but there is no way a team with the offensive philosophy of the Panthers should rely on him as their main threat with his injury history. And, it's time to scrap the read option. Teams are catching on and Cam is taking/ (and has already taken) too many hits.

I think he deserves to keep his job, but he needs to adapt his current philosophy to today's NFL.