Will Jonathan Stewart be a Panther in 2017?

[pantherphan96]

I'd feel better about moving on from Stew if CAP actually got any meaningful time during the season. Rather get rid of Fozzy than Stew.

[Davidson Deac II]

On 12/20/2016 at 1:18 PM, gmonjimbo said:

I would like to see JStew and Fournette as teammates. There was a significant drop off when Fozzy came in as the lead back. Fournette might not have the low center of gravity and balance that Stewart has but he is much faster and more dynamic. 

Fozzy was the lead back for one game, and he had a great game.  

[iamhubby1]

10 hours ago, CRA said:

Stewart will be a 30 yr old RB next year that carries a nice cap hit.  That rarely works out for teams. 

He is just coming off one of the best games of his in years.  Fresh on people's minds.  You can go back a couple games a lot of people talked the polar opposite about him.

Can't expect what we saw Monday night next year.  I have always loved 28.  But I stick with the same ol matra.  Go young.  

We would be better off in many regards finding our own David Johnson or Jordan Howard.  You don't need a first round pick to get legit RB in today's NFL. 

 

We have tried the later round RB route. Gaffney, Cap, and Fozzy. And you could even stretch it out and say Barner, he played for Phi last couple years. So we have tried that route

 

And yes, there have been a handful of later round RBs that have made a splash. But they are more a pleasant surprise than a known commodity. You don't draft a guy in the later rounds and expect to get THAT level of play. It is luck of the draw more than anything.

 

The vast majority of splashy RBs are top of the draft types. Just how it is. It is just the nature of the draft. The higher you draft, the better talent you get. As the picks get lower, so does the talent. So expecting a later round RB to make a splash is plain ol' wishful thinking.

 

I hate it, but if you want a good RB, you have to spend the draft pick on him. And it pains me to not get a Hog Mollie with that high of a pick. Or, you can hope a FA will bust out for you. But you just never know when/if one will work out? It is safer to draft, but you lose out on other talent. Or you can take a chance on a FA, which is a crap shoot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[gmonjimbo]

9 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Fozzy was the lead back for one game, and he had a great game.  

He did. I am referring to Monday night's game when he got snaps while Stewart was taking a breather. 

[CRA]

On ‎12‎/‎9‎/‎2016 at 8:15 AM, pantherfan49 said:

I think people don't realize 1) just how good JStew really is, and 2) how he can't be replaced for the 4 mil in cap savings we would get from him. 

 

I think he'll be back next year. 

screw a first round pick...

A Johnson, Howard, Rawls type ? Couldn't step in for a 30 yr old RB as a rookie?

[yasuhara2241]

Everyone talks about keeping him or cutting him but what about option 3??

I think we restructure Stew. Gettleman has shown that he will restructure or just point blank ask for a pay cut. I think ideally Stew would be a perfect #1B back again. Imagine sharing some carries with a Fornette or Cook or any other good back in the draft. That would prolong his career until the young guys are ready to take over. 

[Davidson Deac II]

2 hours ago, gmonjimbo said:

He did. I am referring to Monday night's game when he got snaps while Stewart was taking a breather. 

Ah ok, got it.  Although I don't think we can judge based on a handful of plays.

 

That being said, I certainly don't think that Fozzy could or should be the lead back.  I would like to see him used a bit more though as a change of pace back.  

 

 

[Davidson Deac II]

11 hours ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

We have tried the later round RB route. Gaffney, Cap, and Fozzy. And you could even stretch it out and say Barner, he played for Phi last couple years. So we have tried that route

 

And yes, there have been a handful of later round RBs that have made a splash. But they are more a pleasant surprise than a known commodity. You don't draft a guy in the later rounds and expect to get THAT level of play. It is luck of the draw more than anything.

 

The vast majority of splashy RBs are top of the draft types. Just how it is. It is just the nature of the draft. The higher you draft, the better talent you get. As the picks get lower, so does the talent. So expecting a later round RB to make a splash is plain ol' wishful thinking.

 

I hate it, but if you want a good RB, you have to spend the draft pick on him. And it pains me to not get a Hog Mollie with that high of a pick. Or, you can hope a FA will bust out for you. But you just never know when/if one will work out? It is safer to draft, but you lose out on other talent. Or you can take a chance on a FA, which is a crap shoot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

We could probably spend a second rounder and get a good running back. Most teams are hesitant to to spend a first on a running back, so our chances of getting a good one in the second are improved.  And fwiw, if you look at the current top 10 rb's in rushing yards, only 2 of them were first round picks.  

[CatMan72]

I think it will be a Charles Johnson situation, we're not going to keep him at that price so we'll offer him an "extension" that consists of the rest of the guaranteed money on his current contract and/or we'll cut him and let him test the market. Like CJ, I would be surprised if Stew wants to start over on another team at this stage of his career. He seems very comfortable in CLT and with our organization so unless someone makes him a crazy offer I think he comes back. 

I would love to keep Stew around for at least one more year based on the physicality he brings to our run game, but not at his current cap hit. I think he could be a good complimentary runner at this stage of his career but we need to get younger and find a RB with enough top end speed to score from anywhere on the field. 

[KSpan]

12 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Fozzy was the lead back for one game, and he had a great game.  

Against San Francisco, a team with a historically-bad run defense. On the flip side, that's also the only game in his career where he's had more than 10 carries.

[grimesgoat]

49 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

We could probably spend a second rounder and get a good running back. Most teams are hesitant to to spend a first on a running back, so our chances of getting a good one in the second are improved.  And fwiw, if you look at the current top 10 rb's in rushing yards, only 2 of them were first round picks.  

I know I'll sound like a homer, but I really like Elijah Hood.  He is very similar to Stewie and we could probably get him with the comp pick or the 4th.  He's supposed to be very good at pass protection, which is something the panthers really look for as well.

[ncsfinest21]

Aside from his injuries he has every year, Stew is a good rb. If we build that oline, he could be really good. The holes arent open because the oline, and they are wide open when we pass. Stew is good enough to get around LBs and CBs. Just the holes arent open.  Look at D-Will. After he left Carolina he went behind (who I think has the 2nd best line) Pittsburgh and taking LeVeon spot and he thrived. Its the line man.

[iamhubby1]

7 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

We could probably spend a second rounder and get a good running back. Most teams are hesitant to to spend a first on a running back, so our chances of getting a good one in the second are improved.  And fwiw, if you look at the current top 10 rb's in rushing yards, only 2 of them were first round picks.  

 

I agree that you can get a good RB in the later rounds. But, IMO, once you get past the 1st or 2nd round, you are more hopeful, than certain.

 

I mean, it really is a crap shoot as to RBs. You just never know how they are going to translate into the NFL. Will he put In the work to be great? Or will he be happy with just good? I know, I know, every pick is like that. Which is why, IMO, if you want a Stud? You get him early. It is the only way to insure you are getting the best athlete you possibly can.

[Kevin Greene]

3 hours ago, ncsfinest21 said:

Aside from his injuries he has every year, Stew is a good rb. If we build that oline, he could be really good. The holes arent open because the oline, and they are wide open when we pass. Stew is good enough to get around LBs and CBs. Just the holes arent open.  Look at D-Will. After he left Carolina he went behind (who I think has the 2nd best line) Pittsburgh and taking LeVeon spot and he thrived. Its the line man.

Just as a point of reference Dwill is averaging 3.7 YPC this year, Stewart 3.8 YPC.