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The Panthers don't want Randy Moss's help


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8 hours ago, OneBadCat said:

We aren't losing because of the WRs. It is partly a talent issue but it is also beyond that. It's coaching. It's Rivera  relying on a defense he knows can't be relied upon. It's Shula funneling an offense through KB who is not ready to be a #1 WR again. It's Dave wasting 3 picks of our draft on the same position that could've benefited the entire roster. It's Gano being a pussy for not getting over the Denver miss and costing us another 3 games. It's keeping Mike Tolbert who doesn't do poo but fumble and cause INTs. It's DG again for not getting a RB worthy of being Stewart's #2.

It's a host of problems that a pep talk cannot solve.

Rb I think Payne could do it if given snaps..Rivera is not a good evaluater in who should play and when...When you play a team you have to figure out there weakness..thats how you determine who plays..we see this playing tolbert as rb or catching balls ..should be anyone but him..rivera and shula are to blame thats why they are not goid at adjustments do not know how to evaluate..Every year he says we evaluate..but Tolbert and remmers still starters...same roster same plays.

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5 hours ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

You mean like going after Hillary and putting her in jail over the emails?...

I bet Trump supporters are loving that one.

Trump is a sociopathic, bold faced lying egomaniac.  Take my previous comment into context of that belief of mine :)

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On 12/7/2016 at 8:49 AM, Zaximus said:

To be honest, Ricky hasn't done much of anything.   People like to say he has because he was a fun player here, but really, who has he developed?   KB is KB from college, same big, lazy, WR that uses his size to do everything but is unpolished.  Funchess is about the same as well.   Ginn is Ginn, super speed and has drop issues, we just accept him for what he is and other teams wouldn't.    That's pretty much what he's done.

Randy Moss is probably the 2nd best WR of all time, so I'm not sure how you can dismiss the guy this fast.  

This is the only place Ginn has ever looked like a decent WR (on two separate occasions). Both KB and Funchess are only 2nd year players. KB is never going to be a precise route runner but he's come a long way (off a major knee injury) from his days at FSU and Funchess has shown improvement, both were very raw talents coming out of college. It's also possible that neither KB or Funchess take coaching well, that remains to be seen but it wouldn't be the first time a good coach couldn't get through to talented but raw players. 

Meanwhile, the assumption that Moss could coach these guys up based on what a great player he was is totally false. Nobody considers Randy Moss a technician, he was a freakish athlete who primary ran 9 routes and won jump balls. MJ is the greatest basketball player of all time and he used lottery picks on Kwame Brown and Adam Morrison. Just because you have talent doesn't mean you recognize it in anyone else or are capable of describing what made you great to others. Look at the coaching ranks of the NFL and tell me how many former elite players you see? The best coaches are the guys who didn't have all the natural talent and had to learn the trade. 

 

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On 12/6/2016 at 7:22 PM, SpeedOFLight said:

If you have one of the greatest players of all time asking to help, i say jump on that invite

Being one of the greatest doesn't mean that he is a great teacher.  In fact, its sometimes the opposite.  Those that are blessed with great natural ability have trouble teaching those that aren't quite as gifted.  

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51 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Being one of the greatest doesn't mean that he is a great teacher.  In fact, its sometimes the opposite.  Those that are blessed with great natural ability have trouble teaching those that aren't quite as gifted.  

I can respect that statement. Seen that happen many times before

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2 hours ago, CatMan72 said:

This is the only place Ginn has ever looked like a decent WR (on two separate occasions). Both KB and Funchess are only 2nd year players. KB is never going to be a precise route runner but he's come a long way (off a major knee injury) from his days at FSU and Funchess has shown improvement, both were very raw talents coming out of college. It's also possible that neither KB or Funchess take coaching well, that remains to be seen but it wouldn't be the first time a good coach couldn't get through to talented but raw players. 

Meanwhile, the assumption that Moss could coach these guys up based on what a great player he was is totally false. Nobody considers Randy Moss a technician, he was a freakish athlete who primary ran 9 routes and won jump balls. MJ is the greatest basketball player of all time and he used lottery picks on Kwame Brown and Adam Morrison. Just because you have talent doesn't mean you recognize it in anyone else or are capable of describing what made you great to others. Look at the coaching ranks of the NFL and tell me how many former elite players you see? The best coaches are the guys who didn't have all the natural talent and had to learn the trade. 

 

 

On 12/6/2016 at 7:15 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

Stop.

 

 

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