The obvious is in front of your face, and you are missing it.

[gorillamilitia13]

You guys are scaring me with this Cam leaving words, please stop. And fug all the Panthers "fans" who don't like Cam as our QB you unappreciative fugs. Do you guys really want to know where we'd be without him?

[TarHeel69]

5 minutes ago, gorillamilitia13 said:

You guys are scaring me with this Cam leaving words, please stop. And fug all the Panthers "fans" who don't like Cam as our QB you unappreciative fugs. Do you guys really want to know where we'd be without him?

I don't want or believe that Cam is going anywhere.  He is a great QB.  The problem is that too many people on here believe he doesn't make any mistakes and has nothing to learn.  He has had very poor mechanics and throws off of his back foot way too often.  He makes slow reads.  Sure the poor line play has hurt at times, but Cam's poor throws and decision making has hurt as well.  I agree we win games because of Cam, but we have lost a few because of his interceptions and poor throws as well.  It's a team game.

[ickmule]

22 minutes ago, gorillamilitia13 said:

You guys are scaring me with this Cam leaving words, please stop. And fug all the Panthers "fans" who don't like Cam as our QB you unappreciative fugs. Do you guys really want to know where we'd be without him?

Probabaly 4-8 like we are now. 

[gorillamilitia13]

13 minutes ago, TarHeel69 said:

I don't want or believe that Cam is going anywhere.  He is a great QB.  The problem is that too many people on here believe he doesn't make any mistakes and has nothing to learn.  He has had very poor mechanics and throws off of his back foot way too often.  He makes slow reads.  Sure the poor line play has hurt at times, but Cam's poor throws and decision making has hurt as well.  I agree we win games because of Cam, but we have lost a few because of his interceptions and poor throws as well.  It's a team game.

He does make mistakes, I agree, he is human after all. But I am talking about the people that don't appreciate what Cam has done for this franchise and believe we'd be better off with someone else. No one means more to their teams than success Cam, Luck, and Rodgers. It is also hard to fully evaluate Cam in this flawed offensice scheme with our incompetent o coordinator.

[gorillamilitia13]

4 minutes ago, ickmule said:

Probabaly 4-8 like we are now. 

And we'd probably go 15-1 and make it to the superbowl last season without him too right?

[ickmule]

2 minutes ago, gorillamilitia13 said:

And we'd probably go 15-1 and make it to the superbowl last season without him too right?

Didn't say that, but he's no where near what he was last year. There are 99 problems with this team this year and Cam IS one of them. 

[TarHeel69]

9 minutes ago, gorillamilitia13 said:

He does make mistakes, I agree, he is human after all. But I am talking about the people that don't appreciate what Cam has done for this franchise and believe we'd be better off with someone else. No one means more to their teams than success Cam, Luck, and Rodgers. It is also hard to fully evaluate Cam in this flawed offensice scheme with our incompetent o coordinator.

We're in agreement on the offensive scheme too.  I wasn't an advocate for Shula getting fired earlier in the season, but I'm definitely there now.  Shula, Remmers and Tolbert need to go as soon as humanly possible.  There are others as well, but those are my top three.

[Vagrant]

Which season is more like Cam's career average season, this year or last year? I love Cam, but look at the numbers. It's all there. 

[beastson]

1 hour ago, gorillamilitia13 said:

You guys are scaring me with this Cam leaving words, please stop. And fug all the Panthers "fans" who don't like Cam as our QB you unappreciative fugs. Do you guys really want to know where we'd be without him?

Well if they're scaring you, wait until my next thread I'm considering dropping at the right time. If we continue free falling ima do it and your second sentence is helping motivate me to do it

[The Lobo]

5 minutes ago, beastson said:

Well if they're scaring you, wait until my next thread I'm considering dropping at the right time. If we continue free falling ima do it and your second sentence is helping motivate me to do it

Please make the thread. What else do we have to do?

[pstall]

11 hours ago, Carolina Cajun said:

Bingo.  I've been saying, Shula had his perfect storm last year.  Shula's offense is great...if he has an all pro O-line (Turner and Kalil), Running back (stewart), Pass catcher (olsen) and a superhuman QB playing the best ball of his life.  This year with injuries to his o-line, he has to scheme around it, and instead of that, he's doubled down on his idiotic play calls and run our offense into the ground.  The short to intermediate passing game has NOT BEEN USED AT ALL.  If you're gonna get 6'5 receivers and run them 40 yards down the field on 7 step drop backs, you're gonna fail with this O-line, every. single. TIME!  Shula has to go and if Ron refuses to let him go, then his ass needs to be shipped out too.

I gotta think they know this.  I don't if Shula is blind or wants to and Cam rather not go the short game route.

But to most of us this is the elephant in the  room

[pstall]

11 hours ago, Carolina Cajun said:

Bingo.  I've been saying, Shula had his perfect storm last year.  Shula's offense is great...if he has an all pro O-line (Turner and Kalil), Running back (stewart), Pass catcher (olsen) and a superhuman QB playing the best ball of his life.  This year with injuries to his o-line, he has to scheme around it, and instead of that, he's doubled down on his idiotic play calls and run our offense into the ground.  The short to intermediate passing game has NOT BEEN USED AT ALL.  If you're gonna get 6'5 receivers and run them 40 yards down the field on 7 step drop backs, you're gonna fail with this O-line, every. single. TIME!  Shula has to go and if Ron refuses to let him go, then his ass needs to be shipped out too.

I gotta think they know this.  I don't if Shula is blind or wants to and Cam rather not go the short game route.

But to most of us this is the elephant in the  room

[gorillamilitia13]

53 minutes ago, ickmule said:

Didn't say that, but he's no where near what he was last year. There are 99 problems with this team this year and Cam IS one of them. 

The whole team isn't where they were last year, literally every single player is worse this year than last year! That looks bad on the coaches. If Cam is one of the problems then he's problem #99 with problem #1 being the biggest one. 

[The Lobo]

12 minutes ago, beastson said:

Well if they're scaring you, wait until my next thread I'm considering dropping at the right time. If we continue free falling ima do it and your second sentence is helping motivate me to do it

In all seriousness though, are suggesting Cam leave?