Gil Brandt says Let KK Walk...

[CRA]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah, you could see the seething anger on his face in that presser when he told Gettleman he liked him now and felt the team was in good hands. It was also obvious as he continued working for the organization afterward.

(in other words, bulls--t)

Just because Gross is a standup guy at the end...

doesnt change the fact he forced Gross into an early exit and Gross was pissed.

I mean you are ALL IN on your Gettlemen defense.  I guess it was just a fictional account that Gross himself spoke about how much he disliked what went down with  Gettlemen.

but Gross was classy and PC at the end so....nothing at all to see there, huh. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

Just because Gross is a standup guy at the end...

doesnt change the fact he forced Gross into an early exit and Gross was pissed.

I mean you are ALL IN on your Gettlemen defense.  I guess it was just a fictional account that Gross himself spoke about how much he disliked what went down with  Gettlemen.

but Gross was classy and PC at the end so....nothing at all to see there, huh. 

Gross said that he disliked Gettleman at first, but changed his mind over time and felt he was handling the team well.

He also indicated that they tried to get him to stick around for another year, but he had already determined before the season that he wanted to retire. Pretty odd thing to say for someone being "forced out".

Your version of events doesn't really hold water.

But hey, far be it from you to fudge facts while you're trying to troll, right?

[Mr. Scot]

18 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Plagiarism is a pretty serious thing to accuse someone of. Can you point me to the source? 

Not sure if you're familiar with the poster.

CPK spent months posting fake "insider" tidbits, acting as though he had access to players and such. Zod outed him as a fraud when he claimed to be "around the team" all the time.

He's also engaged in some fake play analysis where he claims to know what a particular play design is and all the individual assignments are. Turns out it was all just made up, like usual.

To top it off, a while back he also posted a bunch of supposedly recent quotes that he attributed to Ron Rivera regarding how he felt about a player. Turned out most of them were out of context, not referring to what he claimed, or in three or four cases not even spoken by Rivera at all.

As to that list, I'd have to look it up but it sounds like something that was actually from Panthers.com.  Maybe not quite a direct copy but I don't think the ideas are original to him.

Honesty isn't exactly a guiding principle of his.

[Khyber53]

57 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Not sure if you're familiar with the poster.

Honesty isn't exactly a guiding principle of his.

Actually, I have disagreed with the poster on a number of occasions. However, after doing some line by line comparisons through Google, I can't see where he lifted any of the writing from another site or another writer. There are some cases with similar ideas, but this is an internet forum, not a scholarly work, there will always be a bit of parroting of sports media. I did not, however, find any actual evidence of direct plagiarism.

Your mileage may vary, but that's a really, really big deal to accuse someone of that. I personally enjoy reading your posts and getting your take on the team, so I really hate calling you out on this, but I'd suggest an apology to the guy, unless you can actually show where he plagiarized it from. 

From what I saw, the guy did some solid research and it fit with his overall narrative. You've done the same and turned out some very insightful posts. I think any claim of plagiarism on a particular post should probably come with some corroborating evidence, otherwise you come across looking bad.

 

[Cpt slay a ho]

Only 1 of those were released

3, and you could make a argument that the Norman situation was basically a release. Smith,d will, and gamble all got cut /released if I'm correct


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[TheMaulClaw]

On 12/1/2016 at 5:10 PM, gorillamilitia13 said:

You can't even come close to making the conclusion that Bradberry will be better than Norman

How many great seasons has Josh Norman had?

[CPantherKing]

1 hour ago, Khyber53 said:

From what I saw, the guy did some solid research and it fit with his overall narrative. You've done the same and turned out some very insightful posts. I think any claim of plagiarism on a particular post should probably come with some corroborating evidence, otherwise you come across looking bad.

This has been ongoing for a few seasons.

I just discuss my position and ignore the attacks. Since he has brought you and maybe some others into this character assassination, I will make a couple points and then I am done with it.

I am known for my stance against several of Gettleman's decisons and philosophy  - you seem to be aware of that. My arguments led to a group of Gettleman supporters attacking me for my view - Mr. Scot being one of them. They believe most if all of my arguments have no merit and discredit any source I put forward.

I believe that this group is of the opinion that I make these facts up. So, they make up narratives about me, which you were just subjected to by Mr. Scot. They do not want others to see any value in my opposition regarding Gettleman.

They have tried to bait me into an offense that could get me banned. That failed to work since I do not engage with those political antics. They bully anyone who is opposed to the actions of Gettleman, and run most of them off.

I apologize they brought you into their politics because you chose to reply to me respectfully. Also, I apologize they wasted your time vetting a forum post. I respect your efforts to hold a poster accountable for nefarious acts against another poster.

I would much rather see them rebut an opinion to produce a constructive debate.

Now, back to Panthers football.

[CPantherKing]

1 hour ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

3, and you could make a argument that the Norman situation was basically a release. Smith,d will, and gamble all got cut /released if I'm correct


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Norman was released imo. Rescinded franchise tag is releasing rights to the rest of the league.

The Panthers had Norman's rights, and the choice was theirs and not Norman's to keep him or let him go. The best Norman could do is wait to sign the tender and then hold out and receive nothing. Most of us are aware that players at the top of their position threaten hold outs, but rarely if ever walk away from the money. They eventually sign the tender and play. Now, some may pull a Peppers and tank the season under a tender, but I doubt Norman would have done that since he did not receive a big contract prior to the tag.

The only reason a tag should be rescinded is if the tag will be used on another player.

Even if Norman held out, it would not have hurt the Panthers. They could have drafted a couple CBs, which they needed to do since they lost Tillman and Bene was coming back from a serious injury for a CB.

At worst, Bradberry and Worley would have to start and Norman sits out the season not getting paid and not counting against the cap. It appears Gettleman chose the lose-lose option again in the Norman debacle.

The Panthers never used the franchise tag. They risked losing nothing if they kept the tag on Norman and he never signed. The Panthers may have even gained by keeping Norman from going to the Redskins, which would give the Panthers a better shot at the last wild card spot for the playoffs.

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

Actually, I have disagreed with the poster on a number of occasions. However, after doing some line by line comparisons through Google, I can't see where he lifted any of the writing from another site or another writer. There are some cases with similar ideas, but this is an internet forum, not a scholarly work, there will always be a bit of parroting of sports media. I did not, however, find any actual evidence of direct plagiarism.

Your mileage may vary, but that's a really, really big deal to accuse someone of that. I personally enjoy reading your posts and getting your take on the team, so I really hate calling you out on this, but I'd suggest an apology to the guy, unless you can actually show where he plagiarized it from. 

From what I saw, the guy did some solid research and it fit with his overall narrative. You've done the same and turned out some very insightful posts. I think any claim of plagiarism on a particular post should probably come with some corroborating evidence, otherwise you come across looking bad.

 

Not really.

The guy is a troll who's been caught lying and making stuff up on a continual basis. Then when he gets called on it he plays the victim. And occasionally, someone falls for it.

Reality is he's basically full of s--t and deserves everything he's getting from actual Panther fans who are tired of his crap.

[heel31ok]

6 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

Actually, I have disagreed with the poster on a number of occasions. However, after doing some line by line comparisons through Google, I can't see where he lifted any of the writing from another site or another writer. There are some cases with similar ideas, but this is an internet forum, not a scholarly work, there will always be a bit of parroting of sports media. I did not, however, find any actual evidence of direct plagiarism.

Your mileage may vary, but that's a really, really big deal to accuse someone of that. I personally enjoy reading your posts and getting your take on the team, so I really hate calling you out on this, but I'd suggest an apology to the guy, unless you can actually show where he plagiarized it from. 

From what I saw, the guy did some solid research and it fit with his overall narrative. You've done the same and turned out some very insightful posts. I think any claim of plagiarism on a particular post should probably come with some corroborating evidence, otherwise you come across looking bad.

 

Pie...

[heel31ok]

8 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

Plagiarism is a pretty serious thing to accuse someone of. Can you point me to the source? 

Only in the anals of a butt hurt historian...

[heel31ok]

5 hours ago, TheMaulClaw said:

How many great seasons has Josh Norman had?

About as many as we have...

[heel31ok]

4 hours ago, CPantherKing said:

This has been ongoing for a few seasons.

I just discuss my position and ignore the attacks. Since he has brought you and maybe some others into this character assassination, I will make a couple points and then I am done with it.

I am known for my stance against several of Gettleman's decisons and philosophy  - you seem to be aware of that. My arguments led to a group of Gettleman supporters attacking me for my view - Mr. Scot being one of them. They believe most if all of my arguments have no merit and discredit any source I put forward.

I believe that this group is of the opinion that I make these facts up. So, they make up narratives about me, which you were just subjected to by Mr. Scot. They do not want others to see any value in my opposition regarding Gettleman.

They have tried to bait me into an offense that could get me banned. That failed to work since I do not engage with those political antics. They bully anyone who is opposed to the actions of Gettleman, and run most of them off.

I apologize they brought you into their politics because you chose to reply to me respectfully. Also, I apologize they wasted your time vetting a forum post. I respect your efforts to hold a poster accountable for nefarious acts against another poster.

I would much rather see them rebut an opinion to produce a constructive debate.

Now, back to Panthers football.

Nailed it...

[TheMaulClaw]

3 hours ago, heel31ok said:

About as many as we have...

Your not including 2013 right? He was benched for a portion of 2014.

So he had exactly one good year, and almost all of his picks came in the first 4 games.

Norman is overrated. Imagine how bad GMAN would be taking it if we would have resigned Norman and we still sucked.