Honest Question

[The_Rainmaker]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I seriously doubt you have any clue how they were as rookies.

I do especially the 49rs game in San Fran, keep living in your imaginary historical accounts. 

 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, The_Rainmaker said:

I do especially the 49rs game in San Fran, keep living in your imaginary historical accounts. 

Kid, you don't know how to evaluate players without looking up PFF stats or checking Madden ratings now.

[Kakarot]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

He's not what he will be at this point. Neither was Short, nor Kalil, nor any other rookie. Plus we have two DTs with contracts coming up.

It's common football sense not to judge rookies too soon.

While it's common sense not to judge rookies too soon, it's also fair to expect your 1st round pick to atleast be active on game days, and if they're not then of course there will be concerns and questions.

[My Goodness My Guinness]

Probably because we had an injured backup center starting and the coaching staff wanted to make sure we had enough O-linemen if poo hit the fan. And yes, poo did certainly hit the fan. 

[Mr. Scot]

38 minutes ago, Kakarot said:

While it's common sense not to judge rookies too soon, it's also fair to expect your 1st round pick to atleast be active on game days, and if they're not then of course there will be concerns and questions.

Rivera said in his presser that he was deactivated because his ankle isn't fully healed.

It wasn't performance related.

[The Lobo]

I just wish shaq would play more. Dude is solid

[csx]

1 hour ago, My Goodness My Guinness said:

Probably because we had an injured backup center starting and the coaching staff wanted to make sure we had enough O-linemen if poo hit the fan. And yes, poo did certainly hit the fan. 

This and what Ron said about his ankle. I guess it's just a pipe dream to expect people to think a little bit here.

[GoobyPls]

Is hilarious seeing the Gettleman nut huggers doing mental gymnastics trying to validate this pick.

 

Their only argument is to wait until a starter gets hurt or leaves the team, then they get to say "hurr durr I told you Gettleman was right.

 

[davos]

The draft felt weird when it happened, the short period after, and still does.  

It doesn't require any validation of the pick we made, Butler could be great, but the whole BPA direction we seem to take was reversed after the pick.  We heard it was pretty much going to be Vernon or the Henrys in the build up.   DG even admitted in the post-draft presser about us getting antsy for certain needs and trading up.  

I think every GM aims a healthy balance of need v. BPA at each pick (and the weight for each should vary each round) and this draft just didn't add up from a strategic consistency standpoint.  

There was a little period between our last big moves and game 1 where everyone was convinced the rest of the team's talent was good enough to mask our issues (coaching, outside linemen talent, secondary)...and then reality hit.    

As a certain someone would say, "It is what it is" 

 

[The Question]

I think the fact that you guys are of the opinion that Ron and Dave don't work together on a draft pick and agree on it before hand is hilarious. Zods just throwing poo in the wind because he knows with no playoff hopes he needs traffic wherever he can get it


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[The_Rainmaker]

7 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Rivera said in his presser that he was deactivated because his ankle isn't fully healed.

It wasn't performance related.

Actually no he says  it was due to scheme not the injury. Stop trying to spread false information. 

[My Goodness My Guinness]

2 hours ago, The_Rainmaker said:

Actually no he says  it was due to scheme not the injury. Stop trying to spread false information. 

Because coaches always tell the media the truth

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, The_Rainmaker said:

Actually no he says  it was due to scheme not the injury. Stop trying to spread false information. 

 

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RR admits Vernon Butler isn’t going to be the guy they hoped “until we stop playing.” Needs to get that ankle healthy.

[CRA]

10 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Rivera said in his presser that he was deactivated because his ankle isn't fully healed.

It wasn't performance related.

This time of year everyone has health issues and isn't playing at 100%

I'm sure Butler isn't 100%.  Lot of guys get it done this time of year at less than 100%.

to me, it is Ron protecting a rookie.  Butler shouldn't be counted on to be doing much regardless of health.  He is a backup rookie at 100%