Is it just me, or does Cam Newton never scramble anymore?

[dcpanther89]

Would you scramble if every play is designed to keep you in the pocket and you're watching it crumble around you. Name the last time you saw them call a play action rollout pass like they used to.


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[Daddy_Uncle]

I think it's more the fact he hasn't had the opportunity to scramble. The pocket is collapsing so fast around him, he can't take off. It takes time to find an open man, and you can't find him, or decide to take off in less than 3 seconds. The few times I've seen him try to take off and scramble this year he has run right into a DE or LB behind the line.I think now he is just taking the sack instead of losing more yards. The offensive line HAS to be addressed this offseason or  Gettleman has to go

[a girl is no one]

I do think injuries (head and ankle) have affected Cam more than he'll ever let on to the press. And of course this abomination of an offensive line we trot out week by week isn't helping matters. But I'm starting to believe coaching is an issue. Not just Ron and Shula, but who is actually coaching Cam to improve on his techniques as a QB? Like a lot of people have said, he has so much raw talent and athleticism that masks a lot of issues. But with the right coaching to help him improve on and hone into some of the awareness and pocket skills...my god, can you imagine what he could be? It just seems the current coaching staff just says, well Cam is Cam. We'll give him the play call and he takes it from there. I'm not sure what happens in the offseason and I'm not completely sure just how much Dorsey does, but it would be nice to see Cam work with someone who can help take his play to another level. 

[t96]

Honestly, Cam is noticeably slower and for some reason doesn't have the same tackle breaking ability he used to when trying to scramble out of the pocket. He's gotten tackled on a lot of plays since the beginning of 2014 that before that he never ever got tackled on even once. Something happened. We need to change the offense now and build around Cam's passing game and a run game that can sustain itself without Cam, and then let Cam run every once in a while when it's there or when it's necessary.

[t96]

Something I just thought of to add to the previous post... Cam hasn't been good at scrambling since the end of 2013... Something else that hasn't been the same since then... Jordan Gross. Granted our RT was Bell in '13 who was wayyyy worse than even Remmers now, but the interior line play has been much better since the middle of '14, and the tackle play has been weaker on that left side, which seems to be where he scrambled quite a bit. Basically the pressure came from the middle or right and Gross held down his side and Cam would scramble left. There's certainly other factors, his speed, mobility and tackle-breaking but I think Gross retiring has something to do with it.

[Wundrbread33]

On November 28, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Teach_Panther said:

He's actually not that great of a scrambler. He's a good read-option guy on called running plays because of his size and straight ahead speed. I don't even think likes running. I don't think any QB likes running in this league.

...I...........wha?..........I mean damn.

 

Cam has had some of the most breathtaking scrambles you will ever see on a football field.

 

And doesn't like running?

 

Dude has the biggest ass smile on his face every time he runs. Jeez bro. WTF...you have to be a...

[General_Purr]

People block downfield for Russel Wilson though..

When Cam runs the O line just watches and the team have free run at him..

 

 

[csx]

4 hours ago, dcpanther89 said:

Would you scramble if every play is designed to keep you in the pocket and you're watching it crumble around you. Name the last time you saw them call a play action rollout pass like they used to.


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Do you know what scrambling is?

[csx]

53 minutes ago, General_Purr said:

People block downfield for Russel Wilson though..

When Cam runs the O line just watches and the team have free run at him..

 

 

Norwell and Turner don't try to block? OK then. 

[truthjuice]

7 hours ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

I think it's more the fact he hasn't had the opportunity to scramble. The pocket is collapsing so fast around him, he can't take off. It takes time to find an open man, and you can't find him, or decide to take off in less than 3 seconds. The few times I've seen him try to take off and scramble this year he has run right into a DE or LB behind the line.I think now he is just taking the sack instead of losing more yards. The offensive line HAS to be addressed this offseason or  Gettleman has to go

 

6 hours ago, a girl is no one said:

I do think injuries (head and ankle) have affected Cam more than he'll ever let on to the press. And of course this abomination of an offensive line we trot out week by week isn't helping matters. But I'm starting to believe coaching is an issue. Not just Ron and Shula, but who is actually coaching Cam to improve on his techniques as a QB? Like a lot of people have said, he has so much raw talent and athleticism that masks a lot of issues. But with the right coaching to help him improve on and hone into some of the awareness and pocket skills...my god, can you imagine what he could be? It just seems the current coaching staff just says, well Cam is Cam. We'll give him the play call and he takes it from there. I'm not sure what happens in the offseason and I'm not completely sure just how much Dorsey does, but it would be nice to see Cam work with someone who can help take his play to another level. 

Agree. I said before, I wouldn't be shocked if he had offseason surgery. His ankle is a problem and the fact that he's been hit so much is a problem and probably hesistant about taking off. Add on that the blocking is suspect, because Trai and Turner can't be the only ones doing it. This is just not the same Cam and he won't ever tell the media that. 

[TarHeel69]

4 hours ago, csx said:

Norwell and Turner don't try to block? OK then. 

Do or Do Not, There is no try! (Yoda, 1980).  Couldn't help it, Haha!

[The_Rainmaker]

On 11/28/2016 at 7:30 AM, Jeremy Igo said:

I have said for years that Cam Newton's scrambling is the reason the offense has performed. He has saved countless drives on third down, putting a big ole happy face on the pile of dog doo that is Shula's play calling. 

 

Now that he is not running, how is it looking?

 

On 11/28/2016 at 7:33 AM, MurkN said:

When Shula calls the merry go round loop de loop screen play I think about scrambled eggs.

 

On 11/28/2016 at 7:43 AM, truthjuice said:

In about 2 seconds flat. 

Its hard to scramble when the DE's are crashing in, give him Talent on the OL and he will make everone look  like pro bowlers.

[truthjuice]

2 minutes ago, The_Rainmaker said:

 

 

Its hard to scramble when the DE's are crashing in, give him Talent on the OL and he will make everone look  like pro bowlers.

This. People are expecting him to constantly pull rabbits out of his ass. I don't know any QB who would've be consistent and successful and doing much of anything behind that line. The OL will become a priority at some point though I'm assuming.