Legal Hit? YOU Be The Judge

[KillerKat]

12 minutes ago, DamnItJake! said:

never mind I just saw your clip after my post of viewing the original post ..definitely dirty forearm coming in the face/head!! what gives!!??

That's the first thing I noticed when I saw the replay the first time! It was like wtf? He was coming in launching with helmet and forearm. All 3 illegal and nothing called.

[The Lobo]

1 hour ago, beastson said:

Idk man from that angle it doesn't look like helmet to helmet. It look very close though.The Aaron one was clear as fuging day

I can see the refs missing this one because it was so fast, but he leaves his feet and leads with his forearm, both are not legal.

[CPantherKing]

1 hour ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Looks like the defenders helmet makes contact with Cam's to me. Not legal. 

Don't forget the haymaker to the back of Cam's head as well. That was a helmet to helmet hit followed by a forcible blow with arm/hand at the back of Cam's head. He was trying to KO Cam without a doubt.

They could have gone to the body, but they are fearful Cam will not go down without a shot to the head.

[Saca312]

26 minutes ago, Worm said:

People really think this was a clean hit? Come on.

 

Different angle

Check out @chris6615's Tweet:

 

No doubt about it. @Jeremy Igo Use that as solid evidence that was a helmet to helmet hit. No doubt about it. I can't believe how many carolina reporters are so stubborn on this subject.

[Manos]

The real issue to me is that he left his feet to hit Cam like that. It was completely intentional. There was absolutely no excuse for him to do that unless his intention is to hit Cam in the head. How the fug the refs didn't see that just baffles me.

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[PhillyB]

1 hour ago, Still Brooklyn said:

Incidental helmet to helmet. He lead with his shoulder. Still flag worthy because of the helmet, but not dirty and he won't get fined.

after a million replays and swallowing my own disgust and rage i am inclined to agree with this. he lead with the shoulder and his velocity (which was legal) lead to a glancing secondary hit with his helmet a split second later.

i don't think it was a dirty hit.

i do think it should've been flagged, based on the helmet-to-helmet contact regardless of intent, but it doesn't even rank in the top ten of flagrant hits he's taken this year. i'm not particularly mad about it and he didn't seem to be either.

[Saca312]

6 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

after a million replays and swallowing my own disgust and rage i am inclined to agree with this. he lead with the shoulder and his velocity (which was legal) lead to a glancing secondary hit with his helmet a split second later.

i don't think it was a dirty hit.

i do think it should've been flagged, based on the helmet-to-helmet contact regardless of intent, but it doesn't even rank in the top ten of flagrant hits he's taken this year. i'm not particularly mad about it and he didn't seem to be either.

I agree it isn't dirty. What ticks me off is all the talking heads not even considering it to be helmet to helmet and completely fine. That's what really riles me.

[GoobyPls]

I can't blame the ref for not throwing the flag on that play. It happened very fast and Barron is a small guy you wouldn't expect him to make contact with Cam's helmet 

[L-TownCat]

12 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

after a million replays and swallowing my own disgust and rage i am inclined to agree with this. he lead with the shoulder and his velocity (which was legal) lead to a glancing secondary hit with his helmet a split second later.

i don't think it was a dirty hit.

i do think it should've been flagged, based on the helmet-to-helmet contact regardless of intent, but it doesn't even rank in the top ten of flagrant hits he's taken this year. i'm not particularly mad about it and he didn't seem to be either.

I've not even considered motive in my assessment of the play.  I just keep coming back to the rule.  No contact to the head of a QB in the pocket.  I couldn't care any less if he meant to do it or not, the fact is he DID make contact to the head of a QB in the pocket.  Result? Flag, personal foul, 15 yards and automatic first down.  These are not my opinions but statement of universally accepted fact.

[Jeremy Igo]

I've not even considered motive in my assessment of the play.  I just keep coming back to the rule.  No contact to the head of a QB in the pocket.  I couldn't care any less if he meant to do it or not, the fact is he DID make contact to the head of a QB in the pocket.  Result? Flag, personal foul, 15 yards and automatic first down.  These are not my opinions but statement of universally accepted fact.

I'd me more inclined to believe he didn't mean to hit his head if he didn't leave his feet.

[PhillyB]

6 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

I've not even considered motive in my assessment of the play.  I just keep coming back to the rule.  No contact to the head of a QB in the pocket.  I couldn't care any less if he meant to do it or not, the fact is he DID make contact to the head of a QB in the pocket.  Result? Flag, personal foul, 15 yards and automatic first down.  These are not my opinions but statement of universally accepted fact.

that's fair. i think there should've been a flag.

[L-TownCat]

4 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

 

I'd me more inclined to believe he didn't mean to hit his head if he didn't leave his feet.

 

I can see that, but as I mentioned I hadn't even entertained the notion it was intentional until I saw others bring it up.  I couldn't get passed the blatant obviousness of the infraction itself.  I mean how do you miss that?

[csx]

Looks close but legal

[Rook35200]

So, coming back to that supposed "shoulder" hit on Cam, I snagged a GIF of it, and slowed it down to 15% original speed.



I don't know about you, but I certainly don't see any supposed "shoulder" hitting Cam first.

I do see a helmet smashing into Cam and giving me repercussions to the season opener.'

What do you think? Did the Rams get away with this one? Is the league really protecting our QBs? 

Hey @NathanConley , not forcible... right?https://t.co/Jxs5sYiK5v

— Jeremy Igo (@CarolinaHuddle) November 7, 2016

 


I think it's a clean hit, however Brady would have gotten that call. It's a shame smh

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