2017 Fanspeak

[LinvilleGorge]

I'm a huge UNC fan, but I'm not sure there's a pro on that OL. That OL is more the product of a sum of it's parts rather than any standout individuals. It's a group of good, experienced D1 college offensive linemen, but I'm not sure any of them are NFL caliber.

[OldNorthPowell]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm a huge UNC fan, but I'm not sure there's a pro on that OL. That OL is more the product of a sum of it's parts rather than any standout individuals. It's a group of good, experienced D1 college offensive linemen, but I'm not sure any of them are NFL caliber.

True I agree none in early rounds but by round 6 you are taking a gamble. John Heck is solid to me and first pick believes so too in that round.

[pantherphan96]

2 hours ago, stbugs said:

Foreman definitely isn't a 4th rounder. Also, I like Engram as a TE, but he's undersized/not a good blocker. I think Robinson/Walker is doable.

I was surprised to see Foreman drop to the 4th round as well and I doubt he falls that far either. Engram is intriguing as a slot WR / TE. Blocking could definitely use improving but he is a good route runner and an upgrade over Dickson.

[Dilla]

Here is mine, could be better, but it's not bad imo. I honestly think T. McKinely may move into the first with good workouts/Combine and could become an option if we fall into 14th-15th.  I would add a camp arm (like a poorman's Cam Newton in Sefo Liufau or Brady Gustafson) as a possible PS selectio for when we move on from Anderson and Webb and probably bring TJ Logan in as a potential Fozzy replacement in special teams and on 3rd downs. And the best FB and K (Zane Gonzales?) that went undrafted.

 

I guarantee that Kalif Phillips will be in attendance for rookie minicamp/tryouts.

 

YOUR PICKS

1: R1P9

RB LEONARD FOURNETTE

LSU

2: R2P9

EDGE TAKKARIST MCKINLEY

UCLA

3: R3P9

TE JORDAN LEGGETT

CLEMSON

4: R3P35

OT JULIE'N DAVENPORT

BUCKNELL

5: R4P9

C TYLER ORLOSKY

WEST VIRGINIA

6: R5P9

S OBI MELIFONWU

CONNECTICUT

7: R6P9

OT ANTONIO GARCIA

TROY

8: R7P14

WR KD CANNON

BAYLOR

 

 

[MV%doe]

http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/draft.php?d=elnnby

I used drafttek. Them and CBS are the only worthly ones imo. I believe I killed it overall form many viewpoints. Value-added mainly.

 

9: R1P9

 

DL JONATHAN ALLEN

ALABAMA

41: R2P9

 

RB CHRISTIAN MCCAFFREY

STANFORD

73: R3P9

 

LB RYAN ANDERSON

ALABAMA

99: R3P35

 

OT TAYLOR MOTON

WESTERN MICHIGAN

112: R4P9

 

WR COOPER KUPP

E WASHINGTON

151: R5P9

 

S DAVID JONES

RICHMOND

188: R6P9

 

TE PHAROAH BROWN

OREGON

232: R7P14

 

RB DE'VEON SMITH

MICHIGAN

251: R7P33

 

RB MATTHEW DAYES

NC STATE

 

 

I could not turn down Ryan Anderson in the 3rd, aj replacement/luke insurance to justify the pick tho. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Sorry, but I'm done with small school OL. I hope we never draft another one. When it comes to OL, give me a kid from a power 5 conference. Taking that a step further, give me a kid from a traditional powerhouse. 

It just seems like small school OL very rarely work out in the NFL and never work out for the Panthers.

[ncfan]

8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Sorry, but I'm done with small school OL. I hope we never draft another one. When it comes to OL, give me a kid from a power 5 conference. Taking that a step further, give me a kid from a traditional powerhouse. 

It just seems like small school OL very rarely work out in the NFL and never work out for the Panthers.

I feel the same way.

Though, if Devenport is there in the 5th or tarde up in the late 4th (where I have seen feel he will be at) I would be willing to grab him.  Most guys that late are not projected to be imediate impact players, sitting him as a project could be good

[Dilla]

44 minutes ago, stbugs said:

I like it. I don't know anything about Antonio Garcia, but the rest are pretty solid.

All-Sun Belt (doesn't mean much, I know) player that has allowed 0 sacks in 900 snaps. Career (3 year starter) left tackle (6'7, 302 lbs) that is invited to the Senior Bowl and will likely be at the combine.

 

Would be a good developmental prospect late.

[LinvilleGorge]

On 12/29/2016 at 11:00 AM, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm a huge UNC fan, but I'm not sure there's a pro on that OL. That OL is more the product of a sum of it's parts rather than any standout individuals. It's a group of good, experienced D1 college offensive linemen, but I'm not sure any of them are NFL caliber.

 

On 12/29/2016 at 0:16 PM, OldNorthPowell said:

True I agree none in early rounds but by round 6 you are taking a gamble. John Heck is solid to me and first pick believes so too in that round.

If you watched that bowl game that just wrapped up, now you understand what I was saying.

Soloman Thomas tossed that entire OL around like they were a bunch of toddlers. That entire OL got worked today.

[OldNorthPowell]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

 

If you watched that bowl game that just wrapped up, now you understand what I was saying.

Soloman Thomas tossed that entire OL around like they were a bunch of toddlers. That entire OL got worked today.

We are talking late round picks and I believe my pick would be justified. It is a depth pick and a bad O-Line doesn't make a player individually bad. He is but one man. To each their own though.

[LinvilleGorge]

My point is that there isn't an NFL quality player on that OL.

It doesn't matter where you take a guy, if he doesn't have NFL caliber talent it's a wasted pick.

[Dilla]

3 hours ago, stbugs said:

One thing I think is pretty odd is that we've been told that OT is terrible this year for the draft, but I keep seeing a ton of guys selected in every mock, some way higher than I'd expect.

Even the worse classes on paper are likely going to produce a couple of solid starters in the league. I guess that's were we put faith into the scouts.

[MV%doe]

On 12/30/2016 at 3:32 PM, stbugs said:

Used draftek and like this one a lot as well. With Oher likely to come back next year, I went for a long term prospect. Fournette and Howard should help the offense day one as should Charlton on defense. I also love the CB/S/S run from 5th to 7th. If those 3 are really there, that is some good secondary depth including a likely starter at strong safety. Not Jamal Adams, but I think Melifonwu/Ford could be solid. Walterfootball has those 2 as the 6th and 11th safety prospects. Also, Pocic as Walterfootball's #1 C is a nice get as depth and a legit Kalil replacement.

9: R1P9

 

RB LEONARD FOURNETTE

LSU

41: R2P9

 

TE O.J. HOWARD

ALABAMA

73: R3P9

 

DL TACO CHARLTON

MICHIGAN

99: R3P35

 

C ETHAN POCIC

LSU

112: R4P9

 

OT JULIE'N DAVENPORT

BUCKNELL

151: R5P9

 

CB JAMAR SUMMERS

CONNECTICUT

188: R6P9

 

S OBI MELIFONWU

CONNECTICUT

232: R7P14

 

S JOHNATHAN FORD

AUBURN

251: R7P33

 

WR K.D. CANNON

BAYLOR

I honestly don't know my feelings on fournette. I can make a good case for drafting and avoiding. I do love OJ in the second. You just killed the value&need in 2-4 round picks, pocic is insane value in the 4th. I believe CBS has him as the 36th overall prospect. I personally avoid C/OGs until late rounds, but at that point youd be hard-headed not pick one that's rated high in the 4th.

Not going to pretend to know the 4-7 late round guys. I drafted a guy named stormhand or stormfist in the 7th based on name alone, he was a safety tho....

[Hoenheim]

I suck at this poo.

8: R1P8

CB MARLON HUMPHREY

ALABAMA

40: R2P8

C ETHAN POCIC

LSU

72: R3P8

EDGE SOLOMON THOMAS

STANFORD

99: R3P35

EDGE SAM HUBBARD

OHIO STATE

113: R4P8

OT TYRELL CROSBY

OREGON

153: R5P8

OT JON HECK

NORTH CAROLINA

193: R6P8

RB JALEN HURD

TENNESSEE

235: R7P14

WR RYAN SWITZER

NORTH CAROLINA