Report claims NFL officials don’t view Cam Newton as ‘real quarterback’

[Ship]

i get what they're saying about ron speaking out for cam publicly and i think he should be saying more during press conferences, but i think the idea that cam shouldn't 'have to' speak up goes along with what the league expects a QB to be like-- and that is not what cam is.

in a classic QB situation, the QB here would be saying all the right things about being more careful and hits happen in football, blah blah. then the coach would go unhinged and privately the QB would be pushing the issue.

however, cam isn't a good loser and isn't good at taking on-field bias against him without speaking up. i think cam being the one to call out the refs is just another part of who cam is. maybe ron feels that way or knows that and is letting cam take the lead while he and the rest of the org provide the support. therefore i'm not too worried about ron not leading the charge here, even though i'd love as many angry voices from the org speaking out at once. cam is fully aware that the things he says or does will embolden defenders to do things and try to get in his head. i think he's prepared for it, now that the surprise of the denver game is over and he knows this is the current reality, he talks poo plenty on the field. i don't think he's worried. it'll only be if the refs continue to hang him out to dry and some real nasty hits come in that he might flip out.

i do think this team could be capitalizing on this situation more though. this is a perfect us against them moment for this team to rally around their QB. the patriots do this all the time. i'd like to see the perceived bias ignite the team more.

[Kakarot]

It's what a select few of us have been saying for awhile. This isn't a surprise they feel this way. 

Of course when we'd say this on here, we'd always be met with "blah blah cam hugger, blah blah y'all are too protective of Cam, y'all need to chill."

[pantherphan96]

1 hour ago, TheRed said:

Interesting how everywhere you look people are wondering why Cam (not Ron Rivera) has to be the one to speak up, and basically call out the refs for something to finally get done.

With this in mind, I'm thinking a little bit more about what Steve Smith said about Rivera hiding out in his office when he was released.

For all the talk about Ron being a players coach, it makes you wonder.

I like Rivera but he's a company man. Anyone JR hires is gonna bend the knee to the almighty shield.

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, pantherphan96 said:

I like Rivera but he's a company man. Anyone JR hires is gonna bend the knee to the almighty shield.

 

2 hours ago, iamhubby1 said:

So I guess there are a poo ton of people that have forgotten that Rivera HAS talked to the League Office. He HAS sent in tape of some of the hits Cam has taken. Rivera, and Gman both talked to the LO after last week.

What are they supposed to do? Take out a full page add so people will know they are doing something. Some folks are in such a hurry to get their thoughts out there, that the truth gets lost in the shuffle.

But hey, if you want to bash Rivera, facts won't stop you. Because if you have been paying attention, you would know that Cam's support system has tried multiple times to get this issue addressed.

I'd add that the notion that Jerry Richardson is happy to allow the Panthers to serve as a punching bag for the league's other 31 teams is easily one of the silliest notions on this board.

(especially given how many opponents got pissed off last year over our team celebrations)

[The Lobo]

It's clear there's a certain way the masses treat cam. (This will include media, fans of other teams, casual fans, NFL execs etc) Here's a fine example: Last night the catcher for the Cubs (Ross) hit a crucial home run. This is game 7 of the World Series everyone is watching.

His celebration with his teammates was that he touched genitals with other men in sort of a thrusting motion. One player even pointed to his crotch to signal "my turn". I mention this because after the game, there was no letter from an angry mom and no national hate for celebrating and being a thug. As a matter of fact, today on ESPN everyone was laughing about it like it was cool and no big deal. I recall after the angry mom letter, ESPN the next day had a huge debate asking if Cams celebration was too much and if he is over the top. Let's see: Dab or tip touch? Which is worse?

[Datawire]

1 hour ago, iamhubby1 said:

So I guess there are a poo ton of people that have forgotten that Rivera HAS talked to the League Office. He HAS sent in tape of some of the hits Cam has taken. Rivera, and Gman both talked to the LO after last week.

 

What are they supposed to do? Take out a full page add so people will know they are doing something. Some folks are in such a hurry to get their thoughts out there, that the truth gets lost in the shuffle.

 

But hey, if you want to bash Rivera, facts won't stop you. Because if you have been paying attention, you would know that Cam's support system has tried multiple times to get this issue addressed.

This is correct. Rivera has spoken out about it publicly. I guess he needs to jump up and down, wave his arms around in an idiotic fashion, scream and cast voodoo spells on the refs during game time.

[truthjuice]

This is pretty much known. I agree with the person who said Cam and the Panthers won't part on good terms but I don't think the reasons will be made public because he's not that guy. Cam's 30 for 30 and "A Football Life" will definitely be interesting. He is aware of the changes he's leading which is why he can take it. The next generation that use Cam a model won't go through nearly as much as him. He will be one of the greats. Just like AI. 

[yasuhara2241]

First of all, Cam gets treated differently. If you don't see it than your blinded by your Cam hate and many people are blinded by their hatred for Cam.

But let's not do the same thing that we get people on for Cam (jumping to conclusions) and do the same to our coach (calling him out for supposedly not coming to Cams defense). Rivera stated he has talked numerous times to officials and league office about Cam hits. Unfortunately that hasn't helped but to say Rivera, Gettleman & Richardson aren't going to bat for Cam is completely asinine. To say Richard cares more about the shield than the Panthers is completely idiotic as well.

[panthers55]

I don't buy the race issue as the msin reason he doesn't get calls at all. Otherwise the same thing would be happening to Bridgewater when he was healthy, Russell Wilson, Jameis Winston and especially Kaepernick given his kneeling has been cited as a reason that NFL viewership is down this year.  But there is no evidence of a conspiracy against black quarterbacks. Now the notion he is big and strong and isn't seen as defenseless by most officials makes lots of sense and seems valid. I totally think it is unfair and he is being singled out but not because he is black or it wouldn't just be him but all black quarterbacks. And that isn't happening.

[B.BERSIN]

The NFL actually reveals what kind of country USA is now.

[the butch]

If person and newton asking dumb questions and writing dumb articles. 

[Jangler]

Really sad.

 

[Zaximus]

12 hours ago, The Lobo said:

It's clear there's a certain way the masses treat cam. (This will include media, fans of other teams, casual fans, NFL execs etc) Here's a fine example: Last night the catcher for the Cubs (Ross) hit a crucial home run. This is game 7 of the World Series everyone is watching.

His celebration with his teammates was that he touched genitals with other men in sort of a thrusting motion. One player even pointed to his crotch to signal "my turn". I mention this because after the game, there was no letter from an angry mom and no national hate for celebrating and being a thug. As a matter of fact, today on ESPN everyone was laughing about it like it was cool and no big deal. I recall after the angry mom letter, ESPN the next day had a huge debate asking if Cams celebration was too much and if he is over the top. Let's see: Dab or tip touch? Which is worse?

Yeah, there's a weird thing about the NFL.    Fans of the NFL think they own the players, that they are THEIR gladiators, and they expect players to act like they WANT them to act. 

In baseball, the fans don't act like this.  I'm not sure if it's because the NFL is basically a gladiator sport and people are just watching men hurt themselves or what.   MLB players are mostly free to be themselves and hardly face backlash because I haven't heard baseball fans act like they own the players.    I think the MLB has gotten past their racism problem from decades before and the NFL is sadly, still there.   

Also the NFL is too money driven.   What I mean by that is, advertisers completely own whatever happens.  Ratings are paramount.   Since Goodell took over, it's more of a business than a sport.   Baseball, on the other hand, hasn't reached that level, or at least moved on from the 90's.  The players make tons of money, as most of the big sports, but the culture is just different.   

[Darvinsun]

11 hours ago, panthers55 said:

I don't buy the race issue as the msin reason he doesn't get calls at all. Otherwise the same thing would be happening to Bridgewater when he was healthy, Russell Wilson, Jameis Winston and especially Kaepernick given his kneeling has been cited as a reason that NFL viewership is down this year.  But there is no evidence of a conspiracy against black quarterbacks. Now the notion he is big and strong and isn't seen as defenseless by most officials makes lots of sense and seems valid. I totally think it is unfair and he is being singled out but not because he is black or it wouldn't just be him but all black quarterbacks. And that isn't happening.

The other qbs are not changing the game..they don't ave the potential that Cam has to be great and redefine the position ..race has a part just isn't the only reason for some of the refs..not everyone is prejudice but there are other reasons as well.