Big Vern

[CPantherKing]

1 hour ago, 15 said:

dude you are obviously a Butler hater (and pretty much a Panthers hater to boot) and we obviously have different opinions about this play.

I'll make sure to hit you up when Butler has developed into a great player for us much like many of the other players on this team that you have probably judged based on small, poorly understood sample sizes. 

He is going the direction of Kony Ealy. You will be waiting quite some time for any return on this one. A good DT does not get owned on the field - even in their rookie season.

There is no difference of opinion on tangible measurements of distance and an obvious game situation.

Was Butler pushed off the LoS? How far was Butler pushed off the LoS? Who was impeded by Butler? How wide of a hole did Butler open?

There is no opinion in this matter.

[the butch]

2 hours ago, CPantherKing said:

He is going the direction of Kony Ealy. You will be waiting quite some time for any return on this one. A good DT does not get owned on the field - even in their rookie season.

There is no difference of opinion on tangible measurements of distance and an obvious game situation.

Was Butler pushed off the LoS? How far was Butler pushed off the LoS? Who was impeded by Butler? How wide of a hole did Butler open?

There is no opinion in this matter.

huh?

[CPantherKing]

2 hours ago, 15 said:

please just keep spewing BS from your lonely mouth. I really hope you don't have to suffer with this mental illness for much longer. nobody should have to live with negativity that you carry on yourself day in and day out:

 

 oh yeah and that's pro bowl LT Joe Staley along with Pro Bowl guard Zane Beadles in case you were wondering.

 

You do realize he is in a 3 tech on that play and the blocking scheme is chipping Butler to release the guard to the LB?

This is the same role KK served in the Broncos play. Gain leverage and pursue down the LoS. It is up to the 1 tech to beat the natural double team and force the RB back to the 3 tech.

This run is a wham and meant to go off the right tackle. KK holds up the double from the 1 tech keeping them off the LBs and allowing Kuechly to jam up the designed play with TD filling the back side hole. This set up Butler to clean up the play.

This is exactly what Butler failed to do from the 1 tech in the other play. Know your plays.

You proved my point, and you probably searched a while for that too.

Butler is an average 3 tech and a god awful 1 tech.

Now, maybe Butler can stop a RB that size at the point of impact instead of pushing him 3 yards down the field. He did that in another play pushing Kuechly off the tackle and pushing the back enough for a 1st down instead of the stop Kuechly would have had. That should have been a 1 yard gain at most. DTs who arm tackle at the LoS are the worst.

Thank you for proving my points about Butler on the previous play and that you do not understand the responsibilities of a position or a what a true double team looks like.

Great job KK and Luke. Satisfactory job by Butler.

Keep trying.

 

[CPantherKing]

1 hour ago, Dick the Butcher said:

huh?

Kony Ealy is still bad at DE with the occasional flash once or twice a season. Do not expect him to go beyond his rookie contract, if he can make it that far.

[the butch]

16 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

Kony Ealy is still bad at DE with the occasional flash once or twice a season. Do not expect him to go beyond his rookie contract, if he can make it that far.

Kony is beginning to plateau . . . after 3 years.  Butler hasn't even played 3 games. 

[uncfan888]

Cpantherking has to be one of the worst posters I've ever seen. If he pies something you post, just know you're wrong 

[The_Rainmaker]

1 hour ago, uncfan888 said:

Cpantherking has to be one of the worst posters I've ever seen. If he pies something you post, just know you're wrong 

He seems to know what he is taking about on the play breakdown, unless you wanna do the corrected breakdown? 

[uncfan888]

53 minutes ago, The_Rainmaker said:

He seems to know what he is taking about on the play breakdown, unless you wanna do the corrected breakdown? 

Bwood already corrected him

[The_Rainmaker]

10 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

Bwood already corrected him

i didnt see it can you quote it for me I would like to see the correct assessment.

[Mr. Scot]

4 hours ago, The_Rainmaker said:

He seems to know what he is taking about on the play breakdown, unless you wanna do the corrected breakdown? 

His "breakdowns" like everything else he posts, are made up bulls--t. 

See, he first tried to gain credibility by claiming to have inside info. He wound up outed and exposed as a fraud by Zod, who actually does have inside info so was in a position to know that CPK was full of s--t.

Now he's trying to go the route of convincing people he has loads of football knowledge by making up s--t and calling it "analysis". His MO is he'll claim to know what a player's assignment is on a play (he doesn't) just so he can claim they screwed up.  

His "breakdowns" are worthless when you realize what he's doing.

Basically, it's just another desperate attempt to get people to believe he knows what he's talking about.

Not quite as pathetic as his creating alts to agree with him, but it's not far behind.

[h0llywood]

The whole idea that Butler isn't going to justify his #1 draft spot, based on 1 GIF, from 1 Game, that clearly shows that he was double teamed, shows that your analysis is poo.

 

[panthers1234]

You don't have a crystal ball to see the future at the time of the draft. It basically comes down to this. The scout team will spend thousands of hours grading and judging players from the draft and rank them on the big board. Ron and DG will then factor in their opinions during the process of the scouting and ranking of each player. All you can try to do is make a smart bet when it comes time for you to pick. No sure things and you won't hit on everything. It really comes down to this. We hit more bets than most other NFL teams. 

How many teams do you think are kicking itself about a 1st or 2nd rounder in the past few years? Every single team. 

How well are the panthers doing with respect to the other teams in the past few years? Top 5 or 3 easily. 
 

Plus its still too early to say whether this is a good or bad pick yet. Its only been 8 games and he has been injured. 

[OriginalPantherDan]

On 11/1/2016 at 4:42 PM, Malt Liquor said:

Then that means it was a wasted 1st round pick for him. We should've drafted 
Derrick Henry. Atleast we've had a running back for the future, after Jonathan Steward is done.

I was on the Henry bandwagon myself, as I wonder how the RB corps will fare after Stew is gone. From what I've seen, this team is far more dangerous with Stew in there, and when he leaves/retires, I don't see a solid replacement on the roster. CAP has shown flashes, as has Fozzy, but neither look like Pro Bowl material. 

[CPantherKing]

9 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

See, he first tried to gain credibility by claiming to have inside info. He wound up outed and exposed as a fraud by Zod, who actually does have inside info so was in a position to know that CPK was full of s--t.

Claimed I had inside info? If this is a fact, then why don't you keep citing the post I claimed to have inside info when you repeat this claim over and over and over ad nauseam.

I may have knowledge of certain industries and professions. Even if I decided to speak of an inside source, it is not like anyone would believe it on a message board without knowing who I actually was in real life.

10 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Basically, it's just another desperate attempt to get people to believe he knows what he's talking about.

Not quite as pathetic as his creating alts to agree with him, but it's not far behind.

How is this campaign going you and the Gettlelover's Club have been carrying out for nearly a year now?

You hate that I point out Gettleman's faults and believe he is holding the team back. You hate it even more that what I have stated is starting to show through the cracks.

I do not agree with Gettleman's philosophy, and I believe he is wasting precious time with the gift that the Panthers were given in the combination of Cam and Luke leading their respective units for the past 5 seasons and hopefully another 5 to 10 more seasons. Is that window that may be half way closed? 

What window? There is no such thing as a window.

Cam and Luke will be here forever. Cam and Luke will be healthy every season together. When Cam and Luke leave around the same time, it won't be hard to replace them. It is not like they are both once in a century type players for a franchise.

Then again some General Manager likes to be the perennial division champion who never puts a complete team together to win a SB championship.

Do you really want to be grouped with the Bills, Eagles, Vikings and Cardinals with their 4+ decades of sniffing a championship because they never went out to complete the team needed to win the big game? We can always revel in those division championships. Especially the ones with a losing record.

The only measure of success for a team is their conference and SB championships.