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How good have Gettleman's drafts been?


MVPccaffrey

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I don't think that Gettleman should be moving up to get players who are not sure bets. I also am skeptical of him moving up at all, considering how many opportunities that were lost because of it.

This last draft leaves a lot to be desired.  I still say that we could have realistically drafted Hunter Henry, Derrick Henry, and Bradberry in the third round. Who knows, Worley may have lasted to the 4th or 5th (if that's the way G-man wanted to swing). Admittedly it's just speculation, but I think that we could have made it work.  With that kind of draft, and Norman on the tag, we'd be sitting prettier than we are now (no disrespect to Vernon Butler who still may turn out to be worth his weight in gold). 

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Hurney regularly had among the highest percentage of drafted players on his team in the entire NFL, actually.

Granted, it wasn't because his drafts were so spectacular but instead because he just absolutely refused to bring in any outside free agents, regardless of how glaring the holes were. So you'd have a bunch of scrubs filling in as starters, for no other reason than they were the guys we drafted, and a team that went 7-9 or 8-8.

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The Patriots and the Seahawks have put together perennial championship teams. What does it matter how many players they select, and are still around? They obviously have a championship winning philosophy, so if anything the Panther's should try to mirror them.

Regardless, you should also list the picks the Panther's traded to move up to select a player.

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21 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I don't think that Gettleman should be moving up to get players who are not sure bets. I also am skeptical of him moving up at all, considering how many opportunities that were lost because of it.

There are players in the draft that are sure bets?

Weird. I could have sworn all draftees had the potential to be booms or busts.

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20 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

The Patriots and the Seahawks have put together perennial championship teams. What does it matter how many players they select, and are still around? They obviously have a championship winning philosophy, so if anything the Panther's should try to mirror them.

Regardless, you should also list the picks the Panther's traded to move up to select a player.

Patriots yes, Seahawks no.  The entirety of the seahawks recent success the last few years was the result of 2 consecutive drafts, and now that they are losing players from those drafts they've come back down to earth.  And I think we'll find now that G-man finally has a lot of cap space to work with (mind you last year with Norman's cap hold with the tag, pretty certain that not much was available actually going into free agency, someone can correct me if i'm wrong).  At the rate G-man is finding starters in the nfl draft for one of the most talented teams in the league already, we'll be a lot less reliant on any outliers like Seattle was.

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49 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

There are players in the draft that are sure bets?

Weird. I could have sworn all draftees had the potential to be booms or busts.

Sure, Scot, but you know what I'm talking about.  Every player who has ever played could have been a bust, but it didn't turn out that way.  Why be so literal? Did anyone think Julius Peppers would be a bust? Did anyone think Andrew Luck would be a bust? Didn't hear any bust talk regarding Zeke or Gurley. Hell, even Luke Kuechly had "it" regardless of whether or not people agreed with us drafting him or not. These players, everyone pretty much knows that minus injuries they are destined to be starters and play at a high level.

But, lets go with the literal truth that there are no sure-fire bets pertaining to the draft, then perhaps Gettleman shouldn't be moving up period. Just judging his drafts, I would prefer that he stand pat.

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4 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Sure, Scot, but you know what I'm talking about.  Every player who has ever played could have been a bust, but it didn't turn out that way.  Why be so literal? Did anyone think Julius Peppers would be a bust? Did anyone think Andrew Luck would be a bust? Didn't hear any bust talk regarding Zeke or Gurley. Hell, even Luke Kuechly had "it" regardless of whether or not people agreed with us drafting him or not. These players, everyone pretty much knows that minus injuries (they are destined to be starters and play at a high level).

But, lets go with the literal truth that there are no sure-fire bets pertaining to the draft, then perhaps Gettleman shouldn't be moving up period. Just judging his drafts, I would prefer that he stand pat.

I'm fine with moving up to get a player you want.

It's not like we're trading away high second rounders for guys like Armanti Edwards.

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You just can't look at a draft on its face. You can trade a pick to get a guy you want, but let's not act like there aren't opportunity costs associated with every pick/position that you decide to deal away. That's why you had better be damned sure that the player you are investing in is going to work out, and likely to be a high impact player.

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14 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

We went 15-1 one of those seasons and won three division titles?

Two things happened those years that the educated call outliers. 15-1 never happens no matter how good you are and you never make the playoffs at 7-8-1. But feel free to use whatever flawed data that you want to make your case. 

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