How good have Gettleman's drafts been?

[nctarheel0619]

5 minutes ago, Growl said:

depends on if the intellect there is up to my standards

I'd party with ya.  

[Growl]

9 minutes ago, Camvp said:

But then what's it say about GMs who half the players they draft don't even make the roster?  That's much worse than what you perceive as a lesser quality starter or depth.

It apparently implies the panthers are too reliant on low end draft picks and UDFAs and if they had less precious "drafted" players they would have more veteran talent working in conjunction with their high end, homegrown youth and wouldn't have surrendered 300 yards to Julio jones

[Growl]

Look I don't want to get into this argument now, I'm all in on the team pounding, and clawing and fighting their way back and doing something special this season by fighting back and winning the Super Bowl.

 

I'm just saying you're making the argument that success is measured not by wins but by an obscure observation that really doesn't mean anything, or even the opposite.

 

 

[heel31ok]

19 minutes ago, Camvp said:

But then what's it say about GMs who half the players they draft don't even make the roster?  That's much worse than what you perceive as a lesser quality starter or depth.

 You mean Like new England? A better team is going to have less opportunities a worse team will have more opportunities...to start...

[heel31ok]

21 minutes ago, juliosantos said:

gettleman is good at drafting and finding cheap talent but he never adresses issues , hes way too cheap and way too stubborn

he also fixates on certain "hidden gems" to the point of giving away picks to get them... more picks should create more options for a great talent evaluator  ... 

[Bartin]

Daryl Williams isn't a starter. He's starting currently because of injury.

[CPF4LIFE]

32 minutes ago, Growl said:

yeah those Patriots may be 7-1, but who has the most cap space? whose drafts have been like super great? #TreBostonINT-Party #buildforthefuture #2022ouryear

So sad that this is the mentality of a lot people around here. 

[Camp Fodder]

Gettleman had Done a good job until this year. He made some bad mistakes this year in letting Norman walk for nothing sitting on over 20 million in spending with a superbiwl roster and continued disregard to upgrading 2 premier positions in LT and DE

[The_Rainmaker]

59 minutes ago, Camvp said:

Pretty darn good.

2013:
Star - multi-season starter
Short - multi-season starter, 2nd team All pro
Kugbila - injuries, no games played, waived
Klein - high quality depth, has started several games, would probably start on most teams
Barner - very few snaps, traded after one year

2014:
Benjamin - multi-season starter
Ealy - starter
Turner - multi-season starter, pro bowl
Boston - starter
Benwikere - multi-season starter, cut
Gaffney - injured, waived

2015:
Thompson - starter
Funchess - starter
Williams - starter
Mayo - quality depth
CAP - quality depth

 

Too early to judge this year, but it looks like Bradberry will be a starter going forward, and Butler at least quality depth just because our interior D-line is so stacked.

Still, 12 out of 16 picks still on the roster.  And 10 out of 16 are/were starters, very very impressive indeed.  How does this compare to other supposedly great GMs, though?

 

In the same span, Belichick has made 26 draft picks.  With Collins being traded, only Three (3) of those 26 picks are currently starters on their roster!  In fact, only 10/26 are even currently on the roster.  Of the three starters: Brown, White, and Ryan, none have even made a pro-bowl.

What about Schneider of seahawk land?  He's made 28 picks in that span.  Only four (4) of those 28 are currently starting on their roster, and 9 are even on their roster at all.

 

There are GMs who have done a better job drafting than those two, like the Vikings GM, but I don't think any GM in the league has drafted as many starters and depth, at least as a percentage of their picks, as DG has hit on his first three drafts and counting.  And it's not like we're the browns where anyone with a pulse could even make our roster or starting lineup, either.

Really, if anything, I wish DG could get as many draft picks as those other GMs, as he's hitting on them like no one else. 

 

Not saying DG isn't good at drafting but the other 2 GMs you mentioned where basically picking at bottom of the litter for years, as you noted the best players  on your list are when DG picked  high on the ladder.

[The_Rainmaker]

9 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

he also fixates on certain "hidden gems" to the point of giving away picks to get them... more picks should create more options for a great talent evaluator  ... 

Not saying DG isn't good at drafting but the other 2 GMs that mentioned where basically picking at bottom of the litter for years, as noted on the list the best players are when DG picked  high on the ladder.

[My Goodness My Guinness]

1 hour ago, Camvp said:

Pretty darn good.

2013:
Star - multi-season starter
Short - multi-season starter, 2nd team All pro
Kugbila - injuries, no games played, waived
Klein - high quality depth, has started several games, would probably start on most teams
Barner - very few snaps, traded after one year

2014:
Benjamin - multi-season starter
Ealy - starter
Turner - multi-season starter, pro bowl
Boston - starter
Benwikere - multi-season starter, cut
Gaffney - injured, waived

2015:
Thompson - starter
Funchess - starter
Williams - starter
Mayo - quality depth
CAP - quality depth

 

Too early to judge this year, but it looks like Bradberry will be a starter going forward, and Butler at least quality depth just because our interior D-line is so stacked.

Still, 12 out of 16 picks still on the roster.  And 10 out of 16 are/were starters, very very impressive indeed.  How does this compare to other supposedly great GMs, though?

 

In the same span, Belichick has made 26 draft picks.  With Collins being traded, only Three (3) of those 26 picks are currently starters on their roster!  In fact, only 10/26 are even currently on the roster.  Of the three starters: Brown, White, and Ryan, none have even made a pro-bowl.

What about Schneider of seahawk land?  He's made 28 picks in that span.  Only four (4) of those 28 are currently starting on their roster, and 9 are even on their roster at all.

 

There are GMs who have done a better job drafting than those two, like the Vikings GM, but I don't think any GM in the league has drafted as many starters and depth, at least as a percentage of their picks, as DG has hit on his first three drafts and counting.  And it's not like we're the browns where anyone with a pulse could even make our roster or starting lineup, either.

Really, if anything, I wish DG could get as many draft picks as those other GMs, as he's hitting on them like no one else. 

One should be cautious when posting a compliment to Gettleman on this board

[Mr. Scot]

29 minutes ago, Growl said:

Look I don't want to get into this argument now, I'm all in on the team pounding, and clawing and fighting their way back and doing something special this season by fighting back and winning the Super Bowl.

I'm just saying you're making the argument that success is measured not by wins but by an obscure observation that really doesn't mean anything, or even the opposite.

Well, if you prefer wins as the standard, we've won more consistently over the past three years than any stretch in team history and had our best season ever last year.

So...Still looks pretty darn good.

[Mr. Scot]

12 minutes ago, The_Rainmaker said:

Not saying DG isn't good at drafting but the other 2 GMs you mentioned where basically picking at bottom of the litter for years, as you noted the best players on your list are when DG picked high on the ladder.

We've been at the bottom of the draft every year except 2013.

[iamhubby1]

To take this a step further. Only 2 players that Gman has drafted are not in the league. Kugs, and Gaffney. Every other player is still in the dad burn league.

 

• I don't care how you spin it. That is an impressive string of success.