D-Will taking shots at Gettleman on twitter

[heel31ok]

33 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

He also picked Norman and Hardy in later rounds, and traded for Greg Olsen.

Yeah well ,besides that...

[pantherj]

It seems like kind of a waste of time to try and paint Hurney or Gettleman as good or bad. I think they're both just run of the mill GMs. Hurney pooped the bed when he stayed with Jake even though he was clearly done, and then planned to use Matt Moore as Jake's replacement. Seeing that Moore wasn't good enough (way too late) he hitched his wagon to Pickles. He also gave a fortune to D-Will and Stewart without realizing that Jeff Otah was the main reason they had a monster season. Otah was once in blue moon great at run blocking. Second best OT I've ever seen at run blocking. Sick nasty and would maul the poo out of anyone, block the view of defenders with his sheer size, and they ran behind him like crazy, but it made the RBs appear more important. 

Gettleman has had the good fortune of having Cam Newton elevating his teams that in all honesty were middle of the road at best talent wise, and sometimes not even that. Gettleman, I kid you not, is trying to low ball players with the argument that it's much cheaper to live in Charlottle than say NYC/DC ect, so they should accept less money. I feel confident in saying that many agents probably hate him with a burning passion. He knows he can ride the Cam train to a certain degree, and he's not that far from retirement anyway. Just don't rock the boat too much, don't make those big financial mistakes, and HELLO $$$$$$$$ my ship has come in and into retirement I go in luxury. Play it safe. Cash in. Shuffle the scrubs and slap it out there. Who knows what the hell will happen with these teams? Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. If it doesn't then run Cam more. That's how I see Gettleman.

[beastson]

lmao no chill at all 

[CPantherKing]

I warned this was coming. As for the players still under contract getting paid millions, their back handed comments will be coming when they are no longer financially tied to this team.

13 hours ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Gross likes him so does Beason.

DeAngelo is just mad he's gotta work for his money now.

Gross did not like him, and that was made known. Gross and Smitty were in the same fold. Beason did not like Gettleman either. He took exception with Gettleman's plan and was pleased to move on in season rather than waiting to be cut in the off season. Beason just recently let loose in the media on Gettleman.

13 hours ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Hahahahaha

OR he'll just get franchised and continue to 'suck' and lose out on more money. Yep. That's extremely logical.

Well, it's not a personal attack if it's true.

You were saying the same things about Josh Norman.

13 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

Well none of the players you mentioned had the impact on this franchise as the players that have. We're talking all time panther greats 

They do not want to remember the digs at Gettleman from Steve Smith, Jordan Gross, Brandon LaFell, Josh Norman, DeAngelo Williams, Roman Harper, Jon Beason, Bene Benwikere, Thomas Davis, Captain Munnerlyn, Greg Hardy, and Mike Mitchell.

12 hours ago, fjblair said:

You Gettleman apologists need to get out more often. Gettleman is widely bashed by the sports media and NFL insiders. It ain't just former players. The man is not GM material and is in way over his head. But after we go 9-7 next year he will again be a genius, right? LMAO

Gettleman is a a war with players and agents. This will only get worse. Gettleman will have money for free agency, but no players will work with Getlleman unless they need him to leverage another team. He will be stuck over paying for mediocre talent like Paul Soliai.

3 hours ago, uncfan888 said:

I find the argument "well, Hurney drafted cam and luke" so funny.  Who gives a poo. He was picking at the top of the draft every year cuz the team he put together couldn't win

Those were rebuilding seasons following the lame duck/JR crusade tank year for the Panthers organization.

Tearing down the great moments of the past to prop up Gettleman's failure is ridiculous. I am very glad the Panthers chose Cam and Luke, because there we many GMs like Gettleman who would not have done the same.

Luke got passes up by GMs when he was supposedly a sure bet, and Cam was doubted by many to be the 1st overall pick.

[CPantherKing]

1 hour ago, pantherj said:

It seems like kind of a waste of time to try and paint Hurney or Gettleman as good or bad. I think they're both just run of the mill GMs.

Both have their problems. I did not like aspects of Hurney's philosophy either. I continue to take exception with the blind faith put in Gettleman. He is given credit for aspects of the team he had nothing to do with and likely would have never done. He is made to look like Cap genius by over blowing the Cap situation out of proportion from 1 year to what seems to some be 5 to 10 years. When anyone criticizes Gettleman, the shift to criticizing Hurney pops up like some go to salve. Then they make it seem like the 2002 to 2009 run was troubled, and the 2011/2012 rebuild was a mess. Those are some great years in Panthers history.

It is disturbing to see Gettleman praised and overhyped, which Gettleman even acknowledges, for element of the team he had no impact on, and then see the ocean of excuses and short memories for the major mistakes he has made over the past 4 off seasons.

You do not see much of the 'In Gettleman We Trust' garbage now. He could have traded for Sean Gilbert, cut Cam Newton, drafted Dwayne Jarrett, tagged Greg Hardy, and signed Chuck Smith all in the same off season, and these Gettlefans would all keep stating Gettleman knows better; Gettleman has not led them astray.

1 hour ago, pantherj said:

Hurney pooped the bed when he stayed with Jake even though he was clearly done, and then planned to use Matt Moore as Jake's replacement. Seeing that Moore wasn't good enough (way too late) he hitched his wagon to Pickles.

Jake was doing very well up until 2007 when he had his tommy john injury. He made a great comeback in 2008 and gave it his all until his arm gave way in the playoffs during a fantastic season. 2009 was the first season he struggled, and he was let go at the end of the season. That is not holding on to him too long. They parted with him after his first season he struggled. Of course they knew they were resetting in 2010 and rebuilding in 2011 at that time.

Matt Moore was just a band aid who was given a shot to prove himself in 2010 as they approached a rebuild. Clausen was never drafted to be a starter. He was drafted to compete and develop into a back up. The 2010 season belonged to Matt Moore, and he struggled. The Panthers had their eye on Andrew Luck while Moore and Clausen were at the helm.

 

[GoobyPls]

1 hour ago, pantherj said:

It seems like kind of a waste of time to try and paint Hurney or Gettleman as good or bad. I think they're both just run of the mill GMs. Hurney pooped the bed when he stayed with Jake even though he was clearly done, and then planned to use Matt Moore as Jake's replacement. Seeing that Moore wasn't good enough (way too late) he hitched his wagon to Pickles. He also gave a fortune to D-Will and Stewart without realizing that Jeff Otah was the main reason they had a monster season. Otah was once in blue moon great at run blocking. Second best OT I've ever seen at run blocking. Sick nasty and would maul the poo out of anyone, block the view of defenders with his sheer size, and they ran behind him like crazy, but it made the RBs appear more important. 

Gettleman has had the good fortune of having Cam Newton elevating his teams that in all honesty were middle of the road at best talent wise, and sometimes not even that. Gettleman, I kid you not, is trying to low ball players with the argument that it's much cheaper to live in Charlottle than say NYC/DC ect, so they should accept less money. I feel confident in saying that many agents probably hate him with a burning passion. He knows he can ride the Cam train to a certain degree, and he's not that far from retirement anyway. Just don't rock the boat too much, don't make those big financial mistakes, and HELLO $$$$$$$$ my ship has come in and into retirement I go in luxury. Play it safe. Cash in. Shuffle the scrubs and slap it out there. Who knows what the hell will happen with these teams? Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. If it doesn't then run Cam more. That's how I see Gettleman.

You pretty much hit the nail on the head 

 

I compare Cam's situation to Peyton's and Bill Polian. Cam might be great enough to carry us and win us a Super Bowl one day, the same way Peyton did in Indy. But we will never fully grasp his greatness until he leaves and goes to another team dedicated to build around him. 

All those seasons Peyton carried Indy and they gave credit to Polian  like he some genius, yet the second Peyton left Indy he went on to have the 3 greatest consecutive seasons in NFL history by a QB. While Indy plummeted to the number 1 pick.

[beastson]

1 hour ago, pantherj said:

It seems like kind of a waste of time to try and paint Hurney or Gettleman as good or bad. I think they're both just run of the mill GMs. Hurney pooped the bed when he stayed with Jake even though he was clearly done, and then planned to use Matt Moore as Jake's replacement. Seeing that Moore wasn't good enough (way too late) he hitched his wagon to Pickles. He also gave a fortune to D-Will and Stewart without realizing that Jeff Otah was the main reason they had a monster season. Otah was once in blue moon great at run blocking. Second best OT I've ever seen at run blocking. Sick nasty and would maul the poo out of anyone, block the view of defenders with his sheer size, and they ran behind him like crazy, but it made the RBs appear more important. 

Gettleman has had the good fortune of having Cam Newton elevating his teams that in all honesty were middle of the road at best talent wise, and sometimes not even that. Gettleman, I kid you not, is trying to low ball players with the argument that it's much cheaper to live in Charlottle than say NYC/DC ect, so they should accept less money. I feel confident in saying that many agents probably hate him with a burning passion. He knows he can ride the Cam train to a certain degree, and he's not that far from retirement anyway. Just don't rock the boat too much, don't make those big financial mistakes, and HELLO $$$$$$$$ my ship has come in and into retirement I go in luxury. Play it safe. Cash in. Shuffle the scrubs and slap it out there. Who knows what the hell will happen with these teams? Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. If it doesn't then run Cam more. That's how I see Gettleman.

All I know is his comments about not being scared away by agents and his reputation are damaging to the Panthers. I can't think of no franchise who called out their GM like it has been done here and its embarrassing and eye opening. I wonder why Whitner isn't playing for us, but instead the Redskins. We just went to the fuging superbowl last year. We have Cam Newton, Luke Kuechly, seems like a no brainer to me and he would be the CLEAR starting SS. He's put this franchise in a position where he better win so he can look good, cause man if we continue to lose you can bet agents and players will expect to be offered more to come play. He needs to pray the Panthers win out.

It also all comes down to ownership to me. They were quick to jump up for the NFL for Hardy, but Gettleman was free to do whatever with a SB losing team last offseason and nobody checked him on his decisions 

[Montsta]

12 hours ago, TheRed said:

I don't bother with DWill anymore. Honestly, yeah he's got money, but it's obvious the dude hasn't been the same since he lost his mom. I feel sorry for him. Since then he has become a really bitter spiteful kind of person.

Anyway.

As far as Gettleman goes, I'm not on some fire him nonsense, and he's still my GM. But he blew it this offseason. I'm sorry boys, but there is no way around it. I'm all for some Panthers shades sometimes, but there's no way around this. The honeymoon period is over.

Even with the missteps by Gettleman, Rivera has regressed as well. This has been a collective fugup all around unfortunately.

See, now this is a logical post everyone. 

You can lay plenty of blame at the feet of DG without making yourself look retarded by blaming him for every single thing wrong with the team. 

[BIGH2001]

Hurney would have looked good as well with a franchise qb in his 5th or 6th year. Gettleman hasnt done anything to prove he is worth more than hurney as most of the players who were any good last season were Hurney's picks

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[Jeremy Igo]

Deangelo Williams was out of shape, uncooperative, and a locker room cancer. Known as a diva throughout the organization. 

 

What did he expect? 

[BIGH2001]

Instead of attacking the messenger (I agree he has issues), make an argument for why its not a bad sign that numerous former players have bashed the GM.  When has that happened before?

[Jeremy Igo]

Instead of attacking the messenger (I agree he has issues), make an argument for why its not a bad sign that numerous former players have bashed the GM.  When has that happened before?

Is it important to you that GMs stay on a players Christmas card list?

[Jangler]

DWill...

 

[CPF4LIFE]

22 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

 

Well Gross himself admitted to disliking him initially. I think Gross is just the type not to hold grudges. You don't hear former players bash a specific member of an organization the way that it's been happening with Gettleman. But yea keep taking up for him, you'll learn.


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Lol.....I was bout to respond to that too. I clearly remember reading gross saying  he didn't like him either...man people will tell themselves anything around to help a discussion.