Buccaneers willing to trade much-needed CB for WR

[Cpt slay a ho]

Yeah with bradberry having turf toe I'd be looking at this trade


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[Cpt slay a ho]

It would definitely would be a upgrade over what we have espeically depth wise we would become stronger at the DB spot. 

For lack of a better phrase I think we're fuged either way lol, if we upgrade the CB position, DE is still a bigger issue IMO. And draft picks are basically off limits given our record


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[iamhubby1]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Honestly, any move meant to salvage this season should've already been made. At 1-5, we have very long odds of making the playoffs.  I think last year's Chiefs team was only the second team to pull it off in the Super Bowl era.

There's no point in making desperation moves to try to contend this year. That ship has likely sailed. If we were going to make a desperate move, the bye week was that chance. We didn't. 

Time to just ride this one out and see what happens.

 

That is a realistic approach to the rest of the season. We are who we are. We are going to give the kids a chance to prove they deserve to be here next year. Especially the CBs. But in the long run, this is going to help us.

 

I know it stinks for us fans. Obviously some take it harder than others. And this place is going to be almost unbearable by years end with all the "I'm gon go to my car and get my other gun. Then I'm gon shoot everyone of y'all." attitudes around here.

 

We have a poo ton of kids on this team. We need to evaluate all of them. It is just how this season is going to play out. It really should separate the men from the boys around here though. 

 

 

[top dawg]

If we lose this game, and the Falcons win, I will concede that this season is dead. Until that happens, I will hold out hope. 

[The_Rainmaker]

33 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

For lack of a better phrase I think we're fuged either way lol, if we upgrade the CB position, DE is still a bigger issue IMO. And draft picks are basically off limits given our record


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Nope we arent if we upgrade DB's all we need is them to get a stop or 2 and offense can carry this team to the W

[KillerKat]

19 minutes ago, top dawg said:

If we lose this game, and the Falcons win, I will concede that this season is dead. Until that happens, I will hold out hope. 

It's dead. However, if we can acquire young talent still, then they would be better prepared next season with a year already in our system.

[Proudiddy]

Why would lacanfora even write that?  Lol.  We are not going to do any in-season trade with a division rival, and neither will they.

[CollegePanther]

Bersin, I'm sorry it had to come to this

[GoobyPls]

6 hours ago, top dawg said:

First of all, Cam didn't make Ginn. Ginn was a product of being in the right system, in the right place, at the right time. He would likely be sitting on someone else's bench, hadn't Gettleman picked him up as a Band-Aid to help alleviate Cap hell.  Secondly, neither Nanee or Murphy were particularly productive in Carolina in any shape, fashion or form. They came here to "die" basically, and no one could revive them. Moreover, I don't remember saying that Funch is always open, but if I did, it was just a figure of speech. But he is not this slow, lumbering, never open, possession, KB-type receiver that you want to make him out to be.

I agree with you wholeheartedly on Coates and Diggs (though I don't remember him being on the radar, not saying that he wasn't). Coates' hands are looking real similar to Ginn's so far though.  A route runner like Diggs would balance the receiving corps off to a tee.

Funny thing is Ginn himself has said Cam is the reason he is relevant. It has nothing to do with system, Ginn got cut by Miami, went to SF got beat out by 4 other receivers got cut came to Carolina got cut went to Arizona got beat out by 3 other receivers which included a rookie WR, came back to Carolina after only one team (the Browns) wanted him, beat out our weak receiving core to get a starting role. Fact is the only reason Ginn is still starting is cause our WR core is extremely pedestrian.

 

You proved my point Nanee a irrelevant player went on to had a career year with Cam, so this whole Funchess is open and Cam isn't finding him a false narrative. Funchess has struggled to get separation since college. Opposing corners have called him for god sakes. FYI Kelvin is faster than Funchess and gets more separation also.

 

Funchess has a higher drop% than Coates. Coates a 4th string receiver with WAY less snaps is beating Devin in every category accept TD

[top dawg]

7 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

Funny thing is Ginn himself has said Cam is the reason he is relevant. It has nothing to do with system, Ginn got cut by Miami, went to SF got beat out by 4 other receivers got cut came to Carolina got cut went to Arizona got beat out by 3 other receivers which included a rookie WR, came back to Carolina after only one team (the Browns) wanted him, beat out our weak receiving core to get a starting role. Fact is the only reason Ginn is still starting is cause our WR core is extremely pedestrian.

 

You proved my point Nanee a irrelevant player went on to had a career year with Cam, so this whole Funchess is open and Cam isn't finding him a false narrative. Funchess has struggled to get separation since college. Opposing corners have called him for god sakes. FYI Kelvin is faster than Funchess and gets more separation also.

 

Funchess has a higher drop% than Coates. Coates a 4th string receiver with WAY less snaps is beating Devin in every category accept TD

Goobs, you can believe what you want to believe about Funchess getting open, and anything else, notwithstanding statistics. 

Sporting Charts, which is my go-to place for drop rate has Sammie Coates at an 11.1 percent drop rate (seventh in the league, 20 receptions, 36 targets, 4 drops). The same has Funchess at a 0 percent drop rate (218th in the league, 7 receptions, 19 targets, 0 drops). And, yes, this is current.

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2016

Devin Funchess has had 228 snaps this season to Coates' 220 according to Pro Football Reference (which is also confirmed by Sporting Charts).

 

You haven't changed my opinion of Ginn. He was brought here as a stop-gap, and this is maybe one of two or three places where he'd get any substantial playing time, and that really doesn't have anything to do with Cam.

 

 

 

[The_Rainmaker]

9 hours ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

I don't see it that way.

Norman needed to go. He wanted to be the All-Star of the team. Not happening over Cam or Kuechly or Olsen. Nows he's the best player for The Redskins. He got what he wanted. I'm fine with suffering now than later. Bradberry is legit and Worley still harnesses potential.

Say what? he wanted to get paid that is all and certain somenones ego came in the way of a 1yr rental.  Its not like teams are limited 2 all stars

 Seattle has 4 

Russell

Sherman

Earl

Kam

[coralreefer_1]

Confused about all the talk about Ginn being traded. We all bitched about no return game for years...and Ginn gives us a little bit of that. Dude is 30% WR, and 70% return man in my book. Maybe some miss the days of Bersin fielding punts?

I like Bersin...and he has be sold for us AS A RECEIVER.  But it seems he will never get play time seriously here. Id be happy to trade him off to some place he might get more opportunity. That's the deal Gets should be making. We need Ginn far more for returns than we do as a reciever.

[MHS831]

To get value you have to give value---Ginn has no value.  Brown--not what they need.   Bersin?  Could have been had on the PS.  The only trade bait would be Funchess. Benjamin is not going anywhere, but there are times when I feel that Rivera gets frustrated with him.

Still developing, but with a QB who makes quicker reads, he could break out.

 

[GoobyPls]

26 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Goobs, you can believe what you want to believe about Funchess getting open, and anything else, notwithstanding statistics. 

Sporting Charts, which is my go-to place for drop rate has Sammie Coates at an 11.1 percent drop rate (seventh in the league, 20 receptions, 36 targets, 4 drops). The same has Funchess at a 0 percent drop rate (218th in the league, 7 receptions, 19 targets, 0 drops). And, yes, this is current.

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2016

Devin Funchess has had 228 snaps this season to Coates' 220 according to Pro Football Reference (which is also confirmed by Sporting Charts).

 

You haven't changed my opinion of Ginn. He was brought here as a stop-gap, and this is maybe one of two or three places where he'd get any substantial playing time, and that really doesn't have anything to do with Cam.

 

 

 

Yep I will continue to believe what I see on tape Funchess not getting open.

 

Sporting chart is terrible with tracking drops. They have to be very specific drop for it to count. Funchess had two drops against in the Vikings and had another one against the saints.

You proved my point again in less snaps Coates has 300 more yards and 13 more catches.

 

Ginn production has everything to do with Cam