TWD Season 7

[Goondal]

I agree with most of the complaints about the show at present.  Negan, to me is very underwhelming compared to what I was told to expect.  I was hoping for some great villain that I loved to hate and what I got was just some annoying guy that makes me roll my eyes when he would speak.

I will admit, my feelings toward the show lately may be effecting the way I receive it.  After the dumpster and then the cliffhanger I really got turned off.  I still watch but I often compare it to how I felt about Dexter in the late seasons.  I am more watching out of habit and memories of what I used to enjoy.

I think that the biggest problem the show has is too many storylines.  Maybe it is because they have to deal with commercial breaks.  Maybe it is because they only get forty-five minutes to tell their weekly story.  Maybe it is the dragging out of the story as have been mentioned, and maybe the writers and showrunners are just not up to the task.  It is probably a combination of all of this.   But, the telling of all these different stories at once feels vastly inferior to what I usually get on HBO and Showtime.  I had essentially forgotten Tara existed until I saw this preview and while I enjoyed the episode with The Kingdom I have no idea when I will see it again.  

Simon is great though, sadly I do not expect it to be a long lasting role and Jesus is interesting but now he is with Carl and nothing involving him is remotely worth my time.  Daryl/Dwight has been my favorite thing over the past few (half) seasons and I hope we do not have to wait until the second half for more.

[rodeo]

"I just don't get it, we gave them the episode of Tara and that one black dude who was in the show last season I think washing up on a beach, why are the ratings still falling?!?!?!"

[CRA]

Season 35 episode 5 should be interesting....I assume that is when they will finally pick back up on the last time we saw Carol/Zeke.  

At this point, I think I'll just let the next two hit the DVR and watch them together.  Think it will be more satisfying to binge multiple episodes given how they are dragging it out 

[cookinbrak]

2 hours ago, rodeo said:

"I just don't get it, we gave them the episode of Tara and that one black dude who was in the show last season I think washing up on a beach, why are the ratings still falling?!?!?!"

I think it's a setup for where they get more guns. Although why would Negan leave them with guns?

[CRA]

13 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

I think it's a setup for where they get more guns. Although why would Negan leave them with guns?

Why would this group run away...by going just down the road into the woods.  It's a big world.  You are so terrified of Negan you had to run away but still reside in his backyard? 

I loved there shoot on site mentality....the 56 women miss a fairly easy target in Tara 683 times.  Oh, we gotcha cornered now Tara...so let's us tell you how we simply kill everyone on site BUT we will make an exception for you. 

Women, huh? They make no sense.  At least the Walking Dead finally kept it real with something 

[pstall]

7 hours ago, CRA said:

Why would this group run away...by going just down the road into the woods.  It's a big world.  You are so terrified of Negan you had to run away but still reside in his backyard? 

I loved there shoot on site mentality....the 56 women miss a fairly easy target in Tara 683 times.  Oh, we gotcha cornered now Tara...so let's us tell you how we simply kill everyone on site BUT we will make an exception for you. 

Women, huh? They make no sense.  At least the Walking Dead finally kept it real with something 

Hence mentioning earlier oblique anachronisms. 

Like Cindy using a flashlight in her room during the day.

Never mind how fuel magically stays good. Lol

But i have to suspend  belief or it will be maddening. 

[CRA]

37 minutes ago, pstall said:

Hence mentioning earlier oblique anachronisms. 

Like Cindy using a flashlight in her room during the day.

Never mind how fuel magically stays good. Lol

But i have to suspend  belief or it will be maddening. 

My favorite "seriously?!" moment was the super fresh walker with the dreads.  Oh, we will just insert a freshly killed person with dreads and Heath's shirt into the bridge group of rotted sand covered Walkers...GOTCHA!  I guess while Tara was away Heath's twin sister stumbled upon the bridge and got killed.   That makes sense. 

[Porn Shop Clerk]

None of that bothers me as much as Tara falling off a bridge and just happening to wash up in the backyard of a group that had encountered the Saviors and ran away.

[CRA]

are we suppose to care that Heath is now MIA? or was this episode purely to show the kill on site group...that doesn't kill on site and will allow someone from Alexandria to roll up on them AGAIN and not be killed?

that said, that little girl Rachel is on par with Lady Mormont of Game of Thrones. Only good thing about the episode.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

That group will probably come into play again in the future. Heath probably made it back, he took a car.

And they were going to kill her, they just wanted to do it away from their camp.

[Inimicus]

This episode really drove home how this series has gone so wrong.  They just keep expanding the world to the point that they cant hope to tell a cohesive story about characters I give a damn about.  I go weeks without seeing anything about the individuals and story lines  that actually keep me attached to the show and by the time they roll back around I care incrementally less each time.

 

They are making the same mistake so many shows make these days by trying to make the world seem full instead of focusing on a solid story with a tighter focus.

 

Not to start a BB vs TWD tangent but the way the writers and producers of BB didn't give us fleshed out backstories for Heull, Kirby, or even Saul the producers and writers of TWD could help the show by contracting the universe a bit.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

The universe is gonna start contracting real soon.

[CRA]

1 hour ago, Porn Shop Clerk said:

That group will probably come into play again in the future. Heath probably made it back, he took a car.

And they were going to kill her, they just wanted to do it away from their camp.

Yeah, they were going to kill after they didn't kill her immediately like they claimed they just always do.  Then if they return to lady ocean camp they will let someone slide again, huh.  It just is crappy storytelling.  They also missed 798 shots at Tara...at Tara. 

It's like Negan.  Oh there are rules!!! No exceptions.  He will kill every man and boy over the age of ten for being a threat.  But then Daryl can kill all his men, punch Negan in the face, disrespect Negan in front of his men again, and do it again in Negan's own bedroom....but Negan let's him slide because he is such a unique threat. 

it was another arc milking filler.  An extra long episode so they could explain that Heath got a new job on 24.  No one even cares about Heath. 

Easy money on the show making some changes next year as the ratings tank at the same time we are told the story is nearing its best.   These episodes aren't well done and this arc could of been

[Bronn]

I thought there were only a couple purposes of this episode, none of which really are important enough for the central story to be worth it but:

1. There's the obvious point of Tara's conflicted worldview from her time with the Governor, to attacking the prison, to joining the prison group, to going through Terminus, to the storming the outpost as an ally with a group she once attacked.

In this world, there isn't really evil. That's what I have been telling you all about Negan, in so many words, all along. He's done what he has to do to survive, just like the women at Oceanside now do after their run-in with Negan's group. They kill on sight, supposedly, out of fear of the past repeating itself. They are just doing what they think will help them survive, old world morality aside. Even Rick has had the mentality, most of the time, that "if you're not with us, you're a threat."

Tara has seen what she thinks is evil in the world, and it would be hard to argue her view. Cyndie, however, still has the young/wise?/innocent perspective that people aren't inherently evil in this world, just that they have forgotten what made them who they were, and what they came from. Then you see the proof in this sentiment when Tara doesn't give up the Oceanside community to Rosita, even though they tried to kill her.

Weeks earlier, Tara and Heath killed a bunch of random people they didn't know while they were sleeping, because they were basically told they were a threat by another group. This really makes them no better than the Saviors.

2. Heath now has an easy out, out of the series. The actor that plays him is pretty active AFAIK, and I could see him getting an off-screen or cheap death, or even just never showing back up and going missing.
 

3. There is a potential for Oceanside to play a part in the war to come. I could see Tara eventually folding and telling Rick or Michonne, or one of the actual alpha leaders of the group about it, once the need for guns/allies is obvious. Maybe they send Michonne out there to parlay? Otherwise, the only purpose of this group was to demonstrate the whole "kill on site" vs. "give people a chance" thing, which we've already seen.

Overall, I thought it was an okay episode, but where TWD fails the most is its inability to incorporate multiple story lines into each week's episode. GoT jumps continents, and TWD gives you @45 minutes of one single place/story line or a couple characters.

I'm sorry, but Tara just isn't that interesting to me (or most people.)