2 TE set - Patriots

[pantherphan96]

5 hours ago, CRA said:

BPA is largely a farse when it comes to draft time.

GMs draft on need and preference more than anything.   There is no universal BPA board.  Every team's BPA is dictated by need and preference

meh. BPA is partially based on need, you wouldn't draft a QB because he is the BPA, but if you lock yourself into just an OT or just a DE you end up reaching.

You can only really grade a draft class 3-5 years after the fact so the only GMan draft worth evaluating right now is the 2013 class where he hit on 3 of 5 picks, and Kug was just derailed by injuries before we could see if he was any good.

[CRA]

7 minutes ago, pantherphan96 said:

meh. BPA is partially based on need, you wouldn't draft a QB because he is the BPA, but if you lock yourself into just an OT or just a DE you end up reaching.

You can only really grade a draft class 3-5 years after the fact so the only GMan draft worth evaluating right now is the 2013 class where he hit on 3 of 5 picks, and Kug was just derailed by injuries before we could see if he was any good.

Some GMs value certain positions more than others.  Some believe value certain traits vs others in players.  Those are preferences.   

Claiming BPA is largely coach speak to a degree.

But GMs draft on need and preference heavily because those shape what BPA is to him specifically.  

So if you value interior line play more than exterior....your BPA is different than another GM.  Maybe you prefer quick and shifty WR play instead of big bodied guys.  BPA is different for those two teams. 

But a GM claims he got the BPA.  Doesn't mean it really was....he got the guy he prefers based on his preference/need.

now I do believe most overall rate players into comparable tiers... but for example Funchess meet Dave's preference/need and thus he claimed he was BPA and had to have him. I doubt a lot of other GMs agreed

[FootballLivesMatter]

Quit the 2 TE set. BB can do whatever and still win. He could design a two QB set. 

 

Its BB and the system. 

[pantherphan96]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

Some GMs value certain positions more than others.  Some believe value certain traits vs others in players.  Those are preferences.   

Claiming BPA is largely coach speak to a degree.

But GMs draft on need and preference heavily because those shape what BPA is to him specifically.  

So if you value interior line play more than exterior....your BPA is different than another GM.  Maybe you prefer quick and shifty WR play instead of big bodied guys.  BPA is different for those two teams. 

But a GM claims he got the BPA.  Doesn't mean it really was....he got the guy he prefers based on his preference/need.

now I do believe most overall rate players into comparable tiers... but for example Funchess meet Dave's preference/need and thus he claimed he was BPA and had to have him. I doubt a lot of other GMs agreed

I can agree with that. Obviously not every GM would agree that Funchess was the BPA or else they would have taken him. At the same time I would want my GM to go into a draft thinking DE 1st round, OT 2nd round, no other way about it. But it definitely does come down to what style the team plays and what characteristics are valued.

[CPantherKing]

13 hours ago, The_Rainmaker said:

The Patriots shipped a 4th round pick to the Chicago Bears for tight end Martellus Bennett (and a 6th round pick)

The Panthers shipped a 4th round pick to the Browns for Andy Lee, and no the Panthers did not get a 6th round pick in addition to Andy Lee.

Who needs a TE like Bennett next to Olsen for Cam when you can give Cam a punter. Am I right?

It is clear who the better GM is between the 2 organizations.

[cardiackat88.]

I was just happy Grönk and Jimmy Graham aren't both on the patriots.

[cardiackat88.]

3 hours ago, FootballLivesMatter said:

Quit the 2 TE set. BB can do whatever and still win. He could design a two QB set. 

 

Its BB and the system. 

Two quartaerback set was done years ago at a high school. IIRC it was eventually banned.

[iamhubby1]

Now if both of your QBs are like Cam, then I could see the advantage. But come on now. Defenses already feel like they have an advantage going 11 on 10. 2 QBs and that is 11 on 9 for the D. Not sure that is going to scare a lot of Defenses.

 

Also, unless both your QBs are on rookie deals. That formation could be expensive. Not to mention the fact that most coaches are too risk averse to attempt that formation.

 

That said. As a fan. That formation kinda excites me. So to sum up. Stupid idea with exciting potential.

[ThPantherFan]

19 hours ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

See, why do this? Shula is our OC. It'll take him 3-4 years before he catches on. By then, a new formation will be the best in the NFL. 

fire shula

[FootballLivesMatter]

5 hours ago, cardiackat88. said:

Two quartaerback set was done years ago at a high school. IIRC it was eventually banned.

BB could win a SB with three QB set