Who is REALLY getting doubled? Saints Game Edition

[Jeremy Igo]

With all the talk still surrounding KK Short and Ron Rivera mentioning yesterday how many times KK Short was double teamed, I decided to watch every passing play against the Saints and make a note of who is getting double teamed. 

 

Here are the results...

Player - Double Teams

KK Short - 14

Star Lotulelei - 11

Kyle Love - 6 

Wes Horton - 5

Mario Addison - 4

Charles Johnson - 2

Kony Ealy - 2 (both as a defensive tackle)

 

So, Rivera was right. KK Short was double teamed the most often of all defensive line players, followed by Star in a close second place. In other words, the Panthers defensive tackles are getting, by far, the most attention on the defensive line. This is normal. However, there are many plays where both defensive tackles are getting doubled on the same play without an extra offensive lineman in the game. 

 

Observe... 

Both Star and KK are immediately doubled. The Saints were so unconcerned with the Panthers defensive ends that Kony Ealy was left on an island by himself against a backup left tackle. Charles Johnson is left alone until he gets well past the line of scrimmage where the running back and the late arriving right tackle are enough to stop him, (having already stopped Star's momentum.) 

 

Also, Kony Ealy did receive two double teams in this game, both from the defensive tackle position. He was never doubled and rarely chipped as a defensive end. 

 

In conclusion, yes, KK Short was doubled more against the Saints. Star is also receiving a great deal of double teams. The lack of defensive end concern from the opposing offense allows this to happen. 

[Kuhndog94]

Give me vet min. Ill play DE.

[Nate Dogg]

Maybe we should consider blitzing one of the linebackers instead of just faking the A gap every play.

[Jeremy Igo]

3 hours ago, Nate Dogg said:

Maybe we should consider blitzing one of the linebackers instead of just faking the A gap every play.

They did blitz Luke a couple times..... and he was doubled immediately. 

[csx]

Woukdnt that be a bit difficult with all the offensive linemen clogging the middle? That's a lot of big people to navigate through.

 

[CPF4LIFE]

There is just no way Ealy gets a new contract with this performance. He hasn't took advantage and he is mostly one and one of every snap. I was hoping he would take that next step. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Instead of constantly threatening the A gap with the blitz where the opposing offense is already concentrating their blocking efforts, maybe we need to start threatening the edges instead. Boston has had some success coming off the edge. 

[csx]

So in the end we've learned that a DT is pretty much always going to be double teamed. Didnt we know this already? I could be wrong but arent taclkles the ones either left alone or helped by a TE or RB? I feel like we are going in circles.

[Navy_football]

10 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Instead of constantly threatening the A gap with the blitz where the opposing offense is already concentrating their blocking efforts, maybe we need to start threatening the edges instead. Boston has had some success coming off the edge. 

Also had success with TD and Shaq coming off the edge. 

[thefuzz]

22 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Also had success with TD and Shaq coming off the edge. 

Speaking of Shaq, where the hell is that guy?

I haven't been able to see every Panthers game this season (very very rare) due to work, but I don't hear much about this young man.

Anyone?

[csx]

5 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Speaking of Shaq, where the hell is that guy?

I haven't been able to see every Panthers game this season (very very rare) due to work, but I don't hear much about this young man.

Anyone?

Hes 4th on the team in tackles

[t96]

11 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Speaking of Shaq, where the hell is that guy?

I haven't been able to see every Panthers game this season (very very rare) due to work, but I don't hear much about this young man.

Anyone?

He's been playing very well. Luke, Shaq and TD are the only reason our defense isn't giving 60 points per game.

[CPantherKing]

33 minutes ago, csx said:

So in the end we've learned that a DT is pretty much always going to be double teamed. Didnt we know this already? I could be wrong but arent taclkles the ones either left alone or helped by a TE or RB? I feel like we are going in circles.

The 1 tech DT is suppose to get doubled. When a 3 tech DT is getting doubled more than the 1 tech DT or the 5 tech DE, then you have problems with the 1 tech DT and 5 tech DE in passing situations. KK was doubled more than 14 times on 49 pass plays. He was doubled 3 times in the final drive alone.

What bothers me is the DT combo of Love and Horton after the Saints got past the 50 yard line. Why do that when the Saints are in optimal scoring position? It seemed like KK and Star were resting when the Panthers needed to apply the most pressure.

[thefuzz]

Just now, thomas96 said:

He's been playing very well. Luke, Shaq and TD are the only reason our defense isn't giving 60 points per game.

Good to hear.  I've been having to play catch up with DVR, and working more than usual lately....sucks, but whatever.