Why refuse to bring in outside help?

[Ornias]

52 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Either the front office are idiots or they're tanking on purpose, because we all saw this coming even before Josh was let go.

This last year was an anomaly and provided a false hope that the team had finally changed the way they've done business the last twenty years.

Cam is now feeling what panthers fans have felt for years, the FO doesn't care about winning just saving $

I have a feeling that this is part of Cam's "pouting". We are sitting on a ton of cap space and yet the FO will not address the tackle position. If Cam had any protection at all we would be putting up 40 points a game. That would solve 75% of our defensive problems right there. Cam has to be feeling that he is taking a brutal beating because the FO doesn't care. 

[Eazy-E]

20 minutes ago, Peppers90 NC said:

Who the hell does OP want now? Of course we should have signed every FA under the sun, surely they all would have loved to play here with Monopoly money.

I don't know how I could have made the op anymore clear. I was asking the question of why the team has refused to make outside moves to fill holes once injuries hit like they did last season. I even mentioned how the guys most people wanted have been signed by teams looking to compete. I named some of the players that are still out there that may be worth a look, and asked why the Panthers are not inquiring.

[Jon Snow]

2 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

I don't know how I could have made the op anymore clear. I was asking the question of why the team has refused to make outside moves to fill holes once injuries hit like they did last season. I even mentioned how the guys most people wanted have been signed by teams looking to compete. I named some of the players that are still out there that may be worth a look, and asked why the Panthers are not inquiring.

Maybe because, and I'm just guessing here, they don't see anybody out there better than what they have?  Other then that I got nothing.

[Wundrbread33]

10 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

I don't know how I could have made the op anymore clear. I was asking the question of why the team has refused to make outside moves to fill holes once injuries hit like they did last season. I even mentioned how the guys most people wanted have been signed by teams looking to compete. I named some of the players that are still out there that may be worth a look, and asked why the Panthers are not inquiring.

I'm with you. I clearly read it as you wishing the front office HAD made a move.

And I agree. We have a ton of cap space, so there was no excuse for not getting vets that could help ease the rookies in, while playing until they were ready. You simply sign them to 1 year deals with attractive pay: they keep our defense solid while the rookies learn, and they come off the books next year so we keep cap flexibility to resign our guys. 

Makes too much damn sense. Perhaps G-man wanted this rebuild suckage the entire time.

 

[CPF4LIFE]

Because that would mean a egotistical person would basically be admitting they were wrong. 

[Jmac]

58 minutes ago, Matthias said:

The season is lost, we need to look forward to a top five pick.  Gettleman has turned this year into a rebuilding year.  So let Bradberry and the other rookies get their feet wet this season.

Question......how about if most of them suck and shouldn't /wouldn't be starting any place else. How about if they don't have the talent to play in the NFL? Let them get their feet wet on some other teams practice squad.....I have seen all I want to see of this group.

2017 needs to see a new secondary with talented free agents and whoever is left standing from this sorry bunch and another draft .Enough of watching these guys run around in circles covering no one.

 

 

 

 

 

[CarolinaJami']

Pretty sure all of the good players are already on NFL rosters at this point. If not I would like to see a list of who we should bring in tomorrow that can actually make a difference...I'll wait.

[Eazy-E]

13 minutes ago, Bogart said:

Maybe because, and I'm just guessing here, they don't see anybody out there better than what they have?  Other then that I got nothing.

I mean that is the obvious answer someone like Ron would give at one of his pressers that we all figure to be bullshit. The secondary is historically bad and the team has done nothing to address the issue. I mean how to you know what is out there isn't potentially better is you don't even work anyone out. Like I said in the op, at least make it look like you are trying to do something about it. Bringing up practice squad players you cut earlier in the season does not instill any bit of confidence.

[Eazy-E]

6 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Because that would mean a egotistical person would basically be admitting they were wrong. 

I really hate to buy into this reasoning but it is growing harder and harder not to at this point. Fingers crossed something happens over the bye week.

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, Eazy-E said:

I mean that is the obvious answer someone like Ron would give at one of his pressers that we all figure to be bullshit. The secondary is historically bad and the team has done nothing to address the issue. I mean how to you know what is out there isn't potentially better is you don't even work anyone out. Like I said in the op, at least make it look like you are trying to do something about it. Bringing up practice squad players you cut earlier in the season does not instill any bit of confidence.

So you're saying they are intentionally ignoring potential upgrades because they want to fail and get fired?  Or they are too stupid to see there is a problem? 

[Eazy-E]

6 minutes ago, Bogart said:

So you're saying they are intentionally ignoring potential upgrades because they want to fail and get fired?  Or they are too stupid to see there is a problem? 

Honestly that is why I am asking the question. Dave made moves last season the only difference was our record. We even had less cap space so I can't seem to put my finger on a logical explanation. Like CPF said maybe Dave's ego is becoming an issue. That means internal problems which is not a good sign for the future, but neither is a 1-5 record so who the fug knows.

[Jon Snow]

10 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

Honestly that is why I am asking the question. Dave made moves last season the only difference was our record. We even had less cap space so I can't seem to put my finger on a logical explanation. Like CPF said maybe Dave's ego becoming an issue. That means internal problems which is not a good sign for the future, but neither is a 1-5 record so who the fug knows.

I think maybe the Josh ordeal did have a bigger impact than what everyone is complaining about.  By that I mean that by the time Dave was forced to change his plan with Josh he had missed on any players he could possibly sign to hedge his bets on the secondary.  So he doubled down in the draft and decided to take his lumps this season.  I'm sure he didn't count on the D line to decide to take the season off which compounded the problem.   

[MV%doe]

I'll hit on two of the biggest- playbook and talent.

Bringing in anyone new would have to learn the 900+ playbook and terminology. Like learning a totally different language within days.

Talent- old coach said teams don't cut talented players. He said sure there's a player that gets his act together and becomes a pro, buts that's very rare. The talent pool gets lesser after each IR, they just isn't allpros waiting by a phone.

[pantherclaw]

There is players that aren't any team that can help us?

 

Lol