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Article: Dave Gettleman Has Destroyed The Carolina Panthers


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8 minutes ago, jasonluckydog said:

Hard time to be a known Panther fan, I have this old white guy who keeps telling me Cam deserves these beatings. This racist tells me this is what happens to people like Cam that run their mouth and showboat.

I'll try to one-up you

I've had people tell me this is karma for Cam "sell out/we're past racism" comments.

 

Gettleman has been actually VERY lucky for quite a while (Winning the division at 7-8-1, OT depth, etc.) and is now finally getting the blame he deserves. 

Having fuggin Josh Norman attached to all our woes is annoying though

 

 

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6 minutes ago, ThPantherFan said:

This is funny, two years ago it was GETTLEMAGIC.  Now it's GETTLETRAGIC.  How quickly so called fans will turn their back on you.  I'm in for the long haul.

fwiw, that moniker is corny af and you'll never see me use it unless i'm being sarcastic 

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16 minutes ago, jasonluckydog said:

Hard time to be a known Panther fan, I have this old white guy who keeps telling me Cam deserves these beatings. This racist tells me this is what happens to people like Cam that run their mouth and showboat.

make america great again

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Lol. Gettleman sends out the same team that went 15-1 and lost in the Super Bowl minus Josh Norman, Roman Harper, aging Jared Allen who had no pass rush juice left, and an old as hell banged up Tillman who was hurt during the important stretch anyways but plus KB, Vernon Butler, Paul Soliai and James Bradberry and now he's the reason that we're losing. Unbelievable. Coaching staff and players' play deserve most of the blame and there have been injuries and frankly just a lot of bad luck against us and close losses against good teams. Is the secondary an issue? Absolutely. Is it accurate to say Gettleman is a bad GM because of that alone? Absolutely not. The secondary, and the team, will be so much better in the long run because of his decisions, you wait and see. We knew all offseason that these moves were for the future not this year, you can't be surprised now that the secondary is weak.


I agree that it's too early to write him off as a bad GM but you can't seriously believe that cutting our top two CBs will somehow help the secondary.


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While I hate our CB situation right now...I'll wait to cast judgement on DG if we can get Bradberry healthy and McClain decent on the other side.  the first two games of the season Bradberry did very well until his injury.  

Now the DLine...thats all on Gman, I'll give you that.

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Lol people turn on each other too fast. So many people here calling for Gettlemans head were the same ones talking about how he was the godfather when he let J-No go, now thats what he's being crucified for. Yea he may have fuged up this year but he deserves a chance to learn from his mistakes just like players and coaches do. Also why don't we give our rookies a chance to develop and our offense a chance to gel. This franchise is in a good place, we'll still be competitive in the long term.

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15 minutes ago, MechaZain said:


I agree that it's too early to write him off as a bad GM but you can't seriously believe that cutting our top two CBs will somehow help the secondary.


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After watching Bene this year and last year do you really think he was a part of the answer in the secondary going forward? I don't think he had much of a future here in the starting lineup. We didn't exactly cut Josh we just decided not to sign him to a huge deal. Freeing up that cap space and not having him this year certainly hurt us this year but will help us and the secondary going forward. We were never going to pay Josh or any CB that money. And Peanut had nothing left in the tank after the ACL tear, if you're referring to him as our other top CB. DG decided to not keep having to put together a patchwork secondary of veterans that just keeps shifting every year. He's starting to build a core there that will be able to have continuity, and Bradberry definitely looks the part while Worley honestly hasn't looked that bad and has flashed some great play. Sanchez doesn't look the part but he was a 5th rounder and wasn't expected to contribute that much this year and if not for injuries wouldn't have been relied upon to. The other safety spot is a huge concern and question mark with Boston/Griffin/Jones rotating there but you can't fix every spot in one offseason. He can improve that in the draft/FA next year.

 

In short, not overpaying a CB, or any player, and freeing up cap space will absolutely help the secondary going forward, and cutting Bene/not re-signing Peanut didn't hurt the secondary at all. Building a core there with young pieces will help it in the long run rather than having 1 year rentals and revolving doors year to year back there.

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15 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

After watching Bene this year and last year do you really think he was a part of the answer in the secondary going forward? I don't think he had much of a future here in the starting lineup. We didn't exactly cut Josh we just decided not to sign him to a huge deal. Freeing up that cap space and not having him this year certainly hurt us this year but will help us and the secondary going forward. We were never going to pay Josh or any CB that money. And Peanut had nothing left in the tank after the ACL tear, if you're referring to him as our other top CB. DG decided to not keep having to put together a patchwork secondary of veterans that just keeps shifting every year. He's starting to build a core there that will be able to have continuity, and Bradberry definitely looks the part while Worley honestly hasn't looked that bad and has flashed some great play. Sanchez doesn't look the part but he was a 5th rounder and wasn't expected to contribute that much this year and if not for injuries wouldn't have been relied upon to. The other safety spot is a huge concern and question mark with Boston/Griffin/Jones rotating there but you can't fix every spot in one offseason. He can improve that in the draft/FA next year.

 

In short, not overpaying a CB, or any player, and freeing up cap space will absolutely help the secondary going forward, and cutting Bene/not re-signing Peanut didn't hurt the secondary at all. Building a core there with young pieces will help it in the long run rather than having 1 year rentals and revolving doors year to year back there.

Coming off a 15-1 season is not the time to be rebuilding entire position groups

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3 hours ago, BIGH2001 said:

Coming off a 15-1 season is not the time to be rebuilding entire position groups

If you listened to any of Josh's interviews in Washington it's clear that he didn't want to be the 3rd most popular panther, Keeping the tag on Josh could have been disastrous. Peanut was done, Bene looked like he loss a step, There was no way around it.

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It's so funny to me that he latched on to the first article he could find about gettleman hoping that other would start agreeing with him. We know it's personal, OP. Gettleman has been bad this year, but he deserves a chance to fix it like all the chances hurney got when he was totally wrecking this team with bad drafts and worse contracts 

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14 minutes ago, carolinajay said:

If you listened to any of Josh's interviews in Washington it's clear that he didn't want to be the 3rd most popular panther, Keeping the tag on Josh could have been disastrous. Peanut was done, Bene looked like he loss a step, There was no way around it.

Even if that is all true, we came into the year relying on rookies, robert mcclain and tre boston.  And how could tagging him have been any more disastrous than a 1-5 start and setting nfl records for futility?

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