Whose job is more in jeopardy? Rivera's or Gettleman's?

[Semaj]

I have been a huge supporter of 'The Dave' from the beginning. This off season was the absolute worst in franchise history considering how close we were. I sure wish Bellicheat was available. I believe Ron is at greater risk. That being said. Neither is going anywhere this season. It would happen next season if one is to be fired.

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[Semaj]

GMs and head coaches going 4-12 one season removed from the Super Bowl is without precedent though.

Are you certain that we will get to 4-12? I'm not. Who on our schedule that's left to play can we confidently say we will beat. I say nobody. We might possibly beat NO and TB. Even those games are huge question marks with this lack of pass rush and porous secondary. Simply, we will be outscored week in and week out. Even when Cam leads us to 38 points we will likely give up 41. The formula to beat us is out. Pass, pass and pass, and of course hit Cam as often and as hard as possible.

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[rhyslloyd]

Firing Hurney was the first step. The GM search was a great move and landed the team Gettleman who has helped produce the best 3 consecutive seasons in panthers history.

So how's that working out?


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[carolinajay]

3 hours ago, rhyslloyd said:

So how's that working out?

all in all pretty good. Something good will come from this season.

[Steves89]

A team with a top 5 defense spent it's first four draft picks on defensive players and became a bottom five defense. I blame Gettleman. I don't blame Rivera for the poor play from our defensive backs. I might blame the lack of pass rush on coaching because the personnel is the same (though they aren't helped by the DB's).
 

If Rivera had a decent special teams coach and a conservative GM who re-signs Norman and signs a small-money vet CB (like Boykin?????)  then we would be at the top of the division.

I don't like Shula, but let's be honest, offense has not been the problem. A defense that can hold a passer to under 400 yards has.

[rhyslloyd]

Should be both. But neither. Nothing will happen. We got lucky that good players overcame bad coaching and leadership. Unfortunately, that isn't happening now. We've been exposed.


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[SCP]

What coach could win with the secondary Dave Gettleman served up?


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[The Lobo]

2 minutes ago, SCP said:

What coach could win with the secondary Dave Gettleman served up?


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Gene Hackman from The Replacements.

[pinkfloyd]

2 hours ago, Growl said:

It would not shock me even a little bit if Gettleman decides to move on from Cam as QB.

 

He's already demonstrated that he feels threatened by players with great star power, and given how integrated Cam and the coaching staff are with one another, it would be difficult to move on from them.  What happens when the day comes when Gettleman needs another scapegoat to detract from the possibility that he may be a source of blame for the team's problems, and he can't do away with the coaches because of how tethered they and our QB are to one another?

 

Gettleman has demonstrated that nothing-absolutey nothing-is bigger than his own legacy or ambitions. 

THIS had not occurred to me.... holy poo.

[Snake]

3 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Correct. 

GMs and Head Coach's one season removed from Superbowl are not in danger. 

There are several players that are, however. 

Unless you want to win. Like in Denver. Knowing JR though we will go though 2 more poo seasons to even be close to firing either one.