Whose job is more in jeopardy? Rivera's or Gettleman's?

[Kevin Greene]

Just now, Sam Mills Fan said:

Not one of those went 15-1. And 1 of the 3 teams to go 5-11 or worse did fire their coach: the Raiders fired Bill Callahan after the '03 season.

So changing your parameters now?

[KB_fan]

6 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

Players are put in positions to fail on that defense. Can't blame them

Sadly, I think there's truth in this.

And cutting Bene obviously helped so very much., so surely cutting MORE starters will really help!  /sarcasm

 

At various times in the offseason I expressed concern in the discussions here re: lack of OT depth, and lack of a veteran CB once Josh was let go and with Tillman retiring...; also expressed some anxiety that we didn't bring in any DEs to compete with the young guys.

Sadly, all three concerns proved valid.  And I'm just a pretty novice football fan.  Passionate about my team, but not knowing a lot about Xs & Os....

Gettleman took a lot of risks.  We'd all be applauding his genius if they had worked, but they look like they bit him pretty badly.   I don't have a lot of optimism right now....

[OldNorthPowell]

4 minutes ago, Benotheking said:

How is Ron a good head coach ? He has 2 winning seasons out of 5 on his way to another losing season. This is nothing new under Ron we always start of slow. Ron should be fired

I think he is a good player manager. Think he needs a better O coordinator and a better GM. Gettleman messed this up badly and Shula gets the offense off to slow starts each week with his predictable play calling.

[Sam Mills Fan]

Just now, Kevin Greene said:

So changing your parameters now?

Are you over there jacking it because you proved me technically wrong? Congratulations, one other team bottomed out at 4-12 and then fired their coach that offseason. Go open a window and breathe in some fresh air. 

 

Regardless, Dave Gettleman fuged us.

[IMissChrisWeinke]

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[Kevin Greene]

Just now, Sam Mills Fan said:

Are you over there jacking it because you proved me technically wrong? Congratulations, one other team bottomed out at 4-12 and then fired their coach that offseason. Go open a window and breathe in some fresh air. 

 

Regardless, Dave Gettleman fuged us.

Neither is in jeopardy.

[TuckerMax25]

17 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

Players are put in positions to fail on that defense. Can't blame them

DE is literally the easiest schematic defensive position there is and they both blow. They both should be done. Especially ealy. 

[gorillamilitia13]

Gettleman. JR needs to just go ahead and give a lot more power to someone else in the franchise. 

[gorillamilitia13]

11 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

It's the SAME team, idiots. Holy poo lol

I hope you're being sarcastic. 

[truthjuice]

Sadly, neither. I would be shocked if anyone lost their job. I'm sure a couple players will be the scapegoat. Cam should go beg to be released. 

[Davidson Deac II]

After three straight division champs and a superbowl appearance, neither Gettleman nor Rivera are in any danger.  I do think we will see some new personnel on the playing field next year though.  

[gorillamilitia13]

7 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

No I'm not. Can you employ common sense?

Clearly you can't. Losing Norman is a huge loss in its own, add Tillman on top of that and then replacing them with 3 rookies is not much of a gain. Don't forget losing DE skill and depth in Allen hurt too. As much poo as we gave Harper he was an important vet leader for this locker room and him and Coleman were a lot better duo than him and Boston. We lost some solid vets who were also vocal leaders. Oh and don't forget that all-pro CB who consistently shut down half the field and some of the best receivers in the league, he brought all the swag to our team that we thrived on last year. 

[Growl]

It would not shock me even a little bit if Gettleman decides to move on from Cam as QB.

 

He's already demonstrated that he feels threatened by players with great star power, and given how integrated Cam and the coaching staff are with one another, it would be difficult to move on from them.  What happens when the day comes when Gettleman needs another scapegoat to detract from the possibility that he may be a source of blame for the team's problems, and he can't do away with the coaches because of how tethered they and our QB are to one another?

 

Gettleman has demonstrated that nothing-absolutey nothing-is bigger than his own legacy or ambitions. 

[mc52beast]

Normally in these situations the coach gets fired and the GM keeps their job, but as most of us know we are THE PANTHERS... 

So nobody is getting fired until we have sucked for a long time.