John Kasay for HOF?

[Khyber53]

I think the world of Kasay, but the fact is, he just isn't HoF bound.

1. Kickers don't make it into the HoF. Only punters have a smaller shot at it.

2. Morten Anderson has a better shot at it, with the length of his career, the number of teams he has played for and the guy is beloved of many sports writers and players. (He has a wicked sense of humor).

3. From this generation of kickers, Viniateri is the only one who has a shot, and he's got those Super Bowl wins. He's the prototype kicker of this age of the sport.

Kasay's a great guy and I wouldn't want to ever see another kicker displace him from our beloved team, but I don't believe there is any way that he is Canton bound.

As Peter King once wrote, "If there was a Hall of Darn Good Players..."

[Wither]

I guess it truly is a Hall of Fame. It definitely can't be based on productivity if:

1) Kickers don't have a shot at it.

2) Some of the players named earlier don't either.

3) You have a chance of getting into the HoF because you have a good sense of humor.

Also, since that kickoff out of bounds, shouldn't he be pretty famous and have a pretty good chance of getting in?

[DelhommesTheMan]

If their is any kicker in the league who even has a inkling of a chance to make the HOF its Adam Vinatieri. Multiple SB championships, and winning kicks...Kasay while he has been great for many many years, has not had an Adam Vinatieri type win. In fact he misses some of the biggest kicks in franchise history. Thats not to say he hasent won us games. He has won us countless games on his own with 3-4 FG performances, hell John Gruden hates the guy. But he does miss his fair share ( If your a Panther fan you know which ones, Giants last year, Rams 2003 divisional playoffs, etc.. Still wouldnt rather have anyone else, love the guy and he may warrent a statue, but not HOF.

[Cyberjag]

Kasay will get a statue and be grateful for it.

[rayzor]

the greatest thing about that would that be that he isn't on the roster anymore which means we would probably only have to have 1 roster spot dedicated to a kicker instead of 2. that would be great.

[mountainpantherfan]

Kickers, in general, should not be HOFer's. I can not think of one kicker who I would consider to be a game changer. Now, there are good, consistant kickers and bad kickers but for the most part the good kickers are interchangable. As much fanfare as Vinatieri recieves the truth of the matter is that if you put Kasay or either Anderson or any of the good kickers in that same position they get the same results. Punters are really can be more of a game changer than placekickers. The guy's name escapes me right now but the punter for the Raiders is a rare example of a kicker being able to be a game changer and even he isn't in the HOF I believe.

[Wither]

Kickers, in general, should not be HOFer's. I can not think of one kicker who I would consider to be a game changer. Now, there are good, consistant kickers and bad kickers but for the most part the good kickers are interchangable. As much fanfare as Vinatieri recieves the truth of the matter is that if you put Kasay or either Anderson or any of the good kickers in that same position they get the same results. Punters are really can be more of a game changer than placekickers. The guy's name escapes me right now but the punter for the Raiders is a rare example of a kicker being able to be a game changer and even he isn't in the HOF I believe.

They can be the deciding factor in a win or a loss, even in superbowls, as we all know. That, in itself, is HOF material IMO. Saying otherwise would be like saying a QB shouldn't be in the HOF because of the great receivers he has to throw to. It doesn't negate the QB's own impact on the game.

[Superadiabatic]

Kasay is a great guy and I have always appreciated every kick he's made for us, but he's one kickoff going out of bounds away from being in the HOF. He always will be unless the rest of the team gives him a shot at making a play in a future Super Bowl for us, which looks unlikely at this point.

[mountainpantherfan]

They can be the deciding factor in a win or a loss, even in superbowls, as we all know. That, in itself, is HOF material IMO. Saying otherwise would be like saying a QB shouldn't be in the HOF because of the great receivers he has to throw to. It doesn't negate the QB's own impact on the game.

Equipment managers can be the deciding factor in a win or a loss. Should they be inducted into the HOF? I guess we just see differently on the issue and we will have to agree to disagree.

[Phil Dees]

Kasay holds many NFL records as a placekicker. He is third all-time for field goals made from 50+ yards and is the only person to complete four field goals from 46+ yards in a single game.

Field Goals Made 386

Field Goals Attempted 473

Field Goals % 81.6

Long Field Goal 56

ill find out some of those other records.

Hummm:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2008-06-19-top-five-kickers_N.htm

Didn't even get a vote in the current top 15 K's, or in the Super Bowl Era top 12.

Sorry, won't ever sniff a HOF nomination.

[Sam Mills Fan]

If they had a kicker Hall of Fame, Kasay would be on the first ballot. He won't ever make it to the real deal though.

I continue to be fascinated by morons that can only bring up Super Bowl XXXVIII when talking about Kasay. Can anyone tell me how many sacks Peppers had in the Super Bowl? I'll tell you: zero. Can anyone tell me how many tackles Peppers had in the Super Bowl? All of two, one more than Matt Willig. Yet nobody ever mentions that.

We had the lead in that game with 6:53 left in the 4th and all the momentum after that 85 yd TD by Moose. Then Brady continued to pick our secondary apart and took the lead right back with just 2:51 left. And then right after the Proehl TD and kickoff out of bounds, Brady had no problem gashing the defense again for the winning field goal. His first pass on the final drive was incomplete, but he then easily rattled off four straight completions to get into Vinatieri range.

If you look at New England's last two scoring drives, the first began at their own 32 and the second began at their own 40. If Kasay manages to kick into the end zone and the return guy returns it to the 32, does anyone really think that Brady wouldn't have been able to gash that secondary for a field goal again because of a measly 8 yards difference in starting position? Of course he would have. If you want to blame that loss on someone, blame the defense that was unable to generate any pressure and was unable to stop Brady from throwing for over 350 yards and 3 TDs and scoring 32 points.

[Flying Lion]

Kasay holds many NFL records as a placekicker. He is third all-time for field goals made from 50+ yards and is the only person to complete four field goals from 46+ yards in a single game.

Field Goals Made 386

Field Goals Attempted 473

Field Goals % 81.6

Long Field Goal 56

ill find out some of those other records.

Did anyone else see the thread title and assume G-man was back?

[N1kkadeemuz]

Kasay will make Panthers HOF but greatness is considered, getting that penalty in the SB doesn't help too much.

[Dpantherman]

hasnt been a good week. i went wild on my posts. my apologies to all of you. i barely remember why even posted the majority of them. no i was not drunk or high....reallly.