Kris Jenkins...

[PeteRozelle]

Jenkins had passion for doughnuts.

He liked the booze too!

pete

[Kurb]

oh so he just called his teammates out for the fun of it? damn he fooled me..thank god your here to set the record straight

No he did that because he was an asshole.

and most fans gobbled it up like Jenna Haze on 12 inches.

[Dpantherman]

he won't last much longer. hes huge and 30, and has more work to do in the 3-4. He takes so many breaks now i almost forget hes on the field. i think this year will b his first year back in Carolina since the trade. im sure he will stir up some boos.

[Kurb]

First series or two he will dominate Kalil, after that he will be too winded to bother us.

[Dpantherman]

Its so hilarious (not really) i think versus the Titans last year. we hear "Sack by Kris Jenkins, and hes not getting up" I think he got winded, and sat most of the game. he weighs like 360!

[Dpantherman]

jeez. its not the one, but look at this. he threw the center to the side. he either sucks, or jenkins still has it. its hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiJ9lYyj4uQ

[GRWatcher]

There are 2 former Panther players that I dislike extremely. Jenkins is one and Collins is the other. Alcoholic egotistical asses. As far as I am concerned they both gave up on the team. :mad5:

[Woodie]

Ok, for those with a revisionist memory, Jenkins was not the same player here after his injury as he was before. All this talk of how good he was is simply a case of people remembering the pre-2004 Jenkins. When he came back, his play was nothing special. In fact, he had a lot of off-sides and lost gap control quite a bit. Frankly, he was nowhere near the force his last couple of years here that some seem to remember.

Also, if anyone remembers, it came out that his last year here, he played at over 400 lbs (and was likely around that same weight in previous seasons). Think about that for a second, 400 pounds. And we're not talking about his habit of coming into camp heavy then losing a bunch, this was his playing weight during the season.

And as for his problems with the team and why he wanted out; first of all, he hated Charlotte. He likes the city lifestyle and felt Charlotte was not fast paced enough for him. Second, his biggest problem with Fox was that Fox wanted him to participate in the off-season program here, while he preferred to workout in Baltimore. So that led to a lot of tension between the team and Jenkins. Thirdly, many players on the team had problems with Jenkins and particularly his speaking out. They felt it was very hypocritical the way he would call out teammates for not playing with passion and heart after playing poorly himself and not showing much heart either. They felt he was just grandstanding at the expense of his teammates. There were also several behind the scenes things that took place which also did not endear him to many of the other players.

So the bottom line is that he needed to go. Now, we can question the team’s not replacing him properly, but that is a separate issue from the need for the team to move him.

[Dpantherman]

Ok, for those with a revisionist memory, Jenkins was not the same player here after his injury as he was before. All this talk of how good he was is simply a case of people remembering the pre-2004 Jenkins. When he came back, his play was nothing special. In fact, he had a lot of off-sides and lost gap control quite a bit. Frankly, he was nowhere near the force his last couple of years here that some seem to remember.

Also, if anyone remembers, it came out that his last year here, he played at over 400 lbs (and was likely around that same weight in previous seasons). Think about that for a second, 400 pounds. And we're not talking about his habit of coming into camp heavy then losing a bunch, this was his playing weight during the season.

And as for his problems with the team and why he wanted out; first of all, he hated Charlotte. He likes the city lifestyle and felt Charlotte was not fast paced enough for him. Second, his biggest problem with Fox was that Fox wanted him to participate in the off-season program here, while he preferred to workout in Baltimore. So that led to a lot of tension between the team and Jenkins. Thirdly, many players on the team had problems with Jenkins and particularly his speaking out. They felt it was very hypocritical the way he would call out teammates for not playing with passion and heart after playing poorly himself and not showing much heart either. They felt he was just grandstanding at the expense of his teammates. There were also several behind the scenes things that took place which also did not endear him to many of the other players.

So the bottom line is that he needed to go. Now, we can question the team’s not replacing him properly, but that is a separate issue from the need for the team to move him.

you summed it up nicely, but i think most of us (i know i did) already established that he needed to be moved. i was more concerned with the effect it had on the D-line.

[Rello]

Unfortunately, The Panthers are going to have The face Jenkins and Rex Ryan's D later in the season. :cryin:

[Peppers90 NC]

and my main point was, We got him out, but we failed to replace him. which is not a good move, unless drafting Nick Hayden was a good move, which is yet to be seen.

so u already know the answer to the question, but you still had to ask?

[Udogg]

The Jenkins we traded was not the same Jenkins the jets got. We would not have traded that Kris Jenkins. That being said I don't see many dominating DT's in the draft since Jenkins was traded. I thought Dorsey would be an unblock able force but thats not the case so far.

Sadly, I think this same topic is gonna come up one day about Julius Peppers when he has 20 sacks playing for the Cowboys next year.

[DaCityKats]

First, Kurb, you've made me lol.

I don't think we really know what went on with Jenkins...we just don't. We paste stories together etc. But, I happen to think he told the truth...just my opinion.

I just find it funny that the two stars on the once vaunted Panthers DL that hasn't been vaunted for awhile, one wanted out and got out...and one made it clear he wanted to be out too.

Makes you wonder...

i agree, jenkins seen this coming and jumped ship.

[mountainpantherfan]

firstdayfan posted a thread about the progression of the defense and their yearly rankings / numbers. The best season statisticly on defense under John Fox was 2005. Buckner and Carstens were our starting DT's. Jenkins was and is talented but I don't see him being that type of player that his talent is special. IMO losing Carstens to a blood clot and diease hurt a lot more than trading away Jenkins.