The Future of Defense?

[jramsey4]

I was gonna say even the Williams Wall would be extremely exhausted by the 3rd Q trying to occupy two guys every play. It's a very real formation on passing downs, more likely an CB or S rather than the fifth LB.

Now that is a concern I agree with. Easiest way to combat this is a good rotation but it would be very hard to keep three good NT, but not impossible.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

One of the reason why more teams are going to a 3-4 is because there is a serious shortage of premier DTs. Now your defense is putting even more importance on having not one but two monster NTs along with solid rotational guys. Besides the obvious fact that it would give up huge YPC to average RBs, it's completely unworkable personnel wise.

[Fiz]

lol guys keep it coming another football forum I post on is cracking up about this

[Fiz]

One of the reason why more teams are going to a 3-4 is because there is a serious shortage of premier DTs. Now your defense is putting even more importance on having not one but two monster DTs. Besides the obvious fact that it would give up huge YPC to an average RB, it's completely unworkable personnel wise.

hate to burst your bubble but the hardest position to find in the entire game is a 3-4 NT.

and for every green bay switching to a 3-4 there's a New England switching to a 4-3

hell san diego is switching to a 4-3 because williams is down

[joemac]

If our current defensive line didnt suck complete balls, our D would be pretty solid.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

the hardest position to find in the entire game is a 3-4 NT.

That was my main reason for saying it's unworkable, you'd basically be looking for two starter quality NTs and at least one more for depth/rotation. It's hard enough just to find one in this league.

[jramsey4]

hate to burst your bubble but the hardest position to find in the entire game is a 3-4 NT.

and for every green bay switching to a 3-4 there's a New England switching to a 4-3

hell san diego is switching to a 4-3 because williams is down

The reason the Pats are switching to the 4-3 is the only reason I don't mind still using it, the talent is easier to come by because of the success of the 3-4. More and more guys that were great in the 4-3 find them selves unemployed because they can't make it in the 3-4 (look at everyones favorite off-season DT to speculate about getting, Correy Williams).

[hairybeanbag]

too much madden not enough real football

[SmootsDaddy89]

Hate to break this to you, but message boards are not where breakthroughs regarding defensive schemes are made.

[Fiz]

if you got an elephant you could play a 1-7

WHERE IS IT AGAINST THE RULES SHOW ME

[jramsey4]

if you got an elephant you could play a 1-7

WHERE IS IT AGAINST THE RULES SHOW ME

I have seen the patriots have quite a bit have success using a front where there are no down lineman. So I guess only Belichick can get creative and new defense and have it be successful. Please. Every new scheme from 3-4 to the wildcat got there routes from someone creative trying to get a competitive edge. And before you misconstrue my trying to think outside the box as thinking I can coach in the NFL I assure you I have no such disillusions. But I have always prided myself as being a creative person in all approaches to life, I just wish Fox was the same.

[pstall]

Not bad.

I think 3-4 is increasing not just because of the pass but the advent of the spread and that old wildcat.

The zone blitz is there to maybe counter teams that do a quick drop ala West Coast.

Also, as someone mentioned with just 2 DT's they would wear down.

This is why the RB by committee is so big. Wearing your opponent down.

Because there isn't a giant chasm of talent/speed team by team you have to out scheme the other team.

Raiders for example. They allegedly have the all world DB Ashoumonga(i butchered his name and too tired to search).

Ok. So you have the great one back there. How is that translating to wins?

The other trend is where your money is concentrated in the salary cap.

The NFL front offices, the good ones anyway, have figured out avg years per spot and the drop off point on production and where to load up on contracts and where to let go.

That alone causes schemes to be much different than just signing the best per spot.

Good work though OP.

[SmootsDaddy89]

What if we have a greasy guido guinea from New York play RB? No one would ever tackle his glistenin' ass.

[frash.exe]

I have seen the patriots have quite a bit have success using a front where there are no down lineman. So I guess only Belichick can get creative and new defense and have it be successful. Please. Every new scheme from 3-4 to the wildcat got there routes from someone creative trying to get a competitive edge. And before you misconstrue my trying to think outside the box as thinking I can coach in the NFL I assure you I have no such disillusions. But I have always prided myself as being a creative person in all approaches to life, I just wish Fox was the same.

ramsey this formation is just too impractical to apply to the NFL.

5 linebackers and two linemen. A two TE set would destroy this easily with the run.