"I would have taken a shot"

[saints4lifeagain]

23 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

It'll go over just fine with NFL fans...and Remmers took up for Cam just fine by falling knee first onto the guy after the play. You can clearly see it in the gif in the other thread...non issue it was a football play...if you don't like that this isn't the sport for you.

Remmers dropping a knee in a guys head after a play isn't a football play.

[TheRed]

Considering how many brutal hits our franchise quarterback has taken dating back to the Super Bowl, I think it's distasteful at best, and downright f*cked up at worst to question him "letting up" or whatever you want to call it on that goal line run. Stewart is out, and he was our leading rusher on the day, again. That's been a theme throughout his career here. Seems some fans and even his own coaches have begun to take his rushing abilities for granted. Now our offensive line is struggling mightily, and he finally got a concussion. But people have the nerve to critique stuff like this? Eh, bad look all around.

[Craig Pruitt]

I don't think it was a dirty shot. While I was watching that play unfold I didn't think Newton broke the plain with the ball until he was able to rebalance himself and stretch the ball over the goal line. I remember thinking to myself "Why did you slow down on the way in?"

[SmokinwithWilly]

16 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Is that even realistically possible though?

Actually, I think it's fairly simple. Make a tackling strike zone. Helmet contact outside that strike zone is illegal, but if a player lowers their head into that strike zone, like duck under a tackle, then it's an ok hit as long as it's not clearly a spear. A defender has to know where they can tackle as much as a QB needs to know where they can be reasonably safe.

[SOJA]

well certainly no one will say now that we coddle cam 

[Davidson Deac II]

Got to admit, when I originally opened this thread, I thought it was going to be about having to take a shot, or several, to get thru the game.  :)

[sobe]

1 minute ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Actually, I think it's fairly simple. Make a tackling strike zone. Helmet contact outside that strike zone is illegal, but if a player lowers their head into that strike zone, like duck under a tackle, then it's an ok hit as long as it's not clearly a spear. A defender has to know where they can tackle as much as a QB needs to know where they can be reasonably safe.

Impossible.  In any event, you are wanting the advantage of a running qb while trying to disavow the disadvantages.  How I that fair?  Can we just declare that are running back is out qb?

[Jangler]

5 minutes ago, Chaos said:

I'll say what I've said in all other threads related to this play.  I only take issue with Cam being casual approaching the goal line in an NFL game.  When that happens, a price is usually paid.  I don't condone dirty play, nor did I find the play by the Falcons' player dirty.  It was a quick shot to prevent Cam from crossing the goal line, and from my vantage point (the TV), he was not clearly across when the contact occurred.

Yeah, in bam bam real time, I don't have a problem with the hit. I have a bigger problem with Cam coasting in, just because he's Cam Newton? Teams have been coming at him hard so far, and he does that? Now he is in the protocol for it, and DA will probably start in the next game. But...Coach should be defending Cam/ team at all costs, at least publicly.

[sobe]

1 minute ago, sobe said:

Impossible.  In any event, you are wanting the advantage of a running qb while trying to disavow the disadvantages.  How I that fair?  Can we just declare that are running back is out qb?

Edit, our and our

[Panthers4real]

40 minutes ago, hepcat said:

No idea what the hell Newton was thinking on that play. He let up and started to stroll in like he was already in the end zone. Happened once before with him against the Saints last year and he got clocked that time too. 

I thought the same thing when I saw that.  I thought (hoped) he learned his lesson the first time that happened...guess not. Hate that it took a concussion this time, but I doubt he'll be doing that again.  It's ALMOST as bad as watching players drop the ball to celebrate before actually getting in the endzone.   

[Fox007]

11 minutes ago, saints4lifeagain said:

Remmers dropping a knee in a guys head after a play isn't a football play.

reading comprehension 

[truthjuice]

Rivera doesn't have the fire. Most head coaches would've have gone in protecting their franchise quarterback. If I'm a player, not just Cam, I'm questioning everybody from management down to mu coaches. It's a bad look from the coach, especially after you know he's been targeted. Clean hit, Cam's mistake or not, very poor taste. I refuse to believe Cam hasn't been playing with lingering effects of a concussion anyway so for Ron to speak this the media, tells me a few things. I thought he was a players coach though. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

14 minutes ago, sobe said:

Impossible.  In any event, you are wanting the advantage of a running qb while trying to disavow the disadvantages.  How I that fair?  Can we just declare that are running back is out qb?

Actually, that's not the case at all. Any player, regardless of whether it's Cam or not, shouldnt have to be worried about being tackled by the head or neck. There's only so much a defender can do in real game speed to alter where they tackle. If a player lowers their head into that strike zone, poo is going to happen. But we shouldn't just accept that drilling a guy in the head just because a defender can't bring him down solo is ok. I think it would actually hurt Cam's game to do something like this, but it would probably help preserve his health.

[sobe]

8 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Actually, that's not the case at all. Any player, regardless of whether it's Cam or not, shouldnt have to be worried about being tackled by the head or neck. There's only so much a defender can do in real game speed to alter where they tackle. If a player lowers their head into that strike zone, poo is going to happen. But we shouldn't just accept that drilling a guy in the head just because a defender can't bring him down solo is ok. I think it would actually hurt Cam's game to do something like this, but it would probably help preserve his health.

You have to worry about a lot of things when you are playing a game where the goal is to stop you progress and bring you to ground.  A face mask to face mask tackle can't be prohibited by rule anymore than a rule saying you can't hit someone's legs because you could injure their knee.