How long can Cam survive Mike Shula?

[MechaZain]

Nagging part of me fears it's already too late. I'd be shocked if this is Cam's first concussion and it may be his 2nd in just four weeks. We'll trot him back out and even if we adjust now it's only a matter of time before he gets rocked again. I'm now more concerned about his health than the gameplan.

[truthjuice]

1 hour ago, MadHatter said:

Seeing the Huddle try and intelligently discuss football after a loss is like watching a monkey jump a football...slightly amusing but really more sad and pathetic than anything else.

The blaming everyone except Cam for his bad play has gotten ridiculous.

I think majority of us can agree that Cam has made bad plays. Not all of those bad plays are just because he's not doing what he's supposed to be doing. Some of those bad plays are bad ideas. But his judgement has been off for weeks now. We can't ride his back to every victory. Other pieces have to be able to fit. It's natural to be off your game at times but let's be honest, nobody including coaching is making it easier. 

[Khyber53]

Shula isn't the one rocking the lame-ass headband while sailing balls over the heads of our freaking gigantic receivers. He also isn't calling any plays with a 9-yard drop back. 

Shula also didn't put lead weights in KB's shoes or twist Stewart's ankles. He hasn't wiffed on a single block or thrown a single interception.

What Shula has done, however, is design an offense that Cam has been comfortable in, allowing Cam to be one of the greatest and earliest record setters in NFL history. He's also successfully taken an athletic college QB and turned the entire NFL game around to where it can be dominated by a mobile, strong armed QB. There's a long list of out of work OCs and QB coaches who couldn't do that, and no end to the number of QBs with similar qualities and play styles as Cam's who got thrown on the "wash-out heap of history."

 

[carolinajay]

3 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

Shula isn't the one rocking the lame-ass headband

What in the blue hell does that have to do with anything? 

[Mvp2014]

59 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Shula isn't the one rocking the lame-ass headband while sailing balls over the heads of our freaking gigantic receivers. He also isn't calling any plays with a 9-yard drop back. 

Shula also didn't put lead weights in KB's shoes or twist Stewart's ankles. He hasn't wiffed on a single block or thrown a single interception.

What Shula has done, however, is design an offense that Cam has been comfortable in, allowing Cam to be one of the greatest and earliest record setters in NFL history. He's also successfully taken an athletic college QB and turned the entire NFL game around to where it can be dominated by a mobile, strong armed QB. There's a long list of out of work OCs and QB coaches who couldn't do that, and no end to the number of QBs with similar qualities and play styles as Cam's who got thrown on the "wash-out heap of history."

 

LOL.  Cam hasn't been the same since Week 1 and maybe the superbowl.  He has either got multiple injuries or some serious shell shock.   Had Cam hit a few of those easy throws our gameplan might have looked half decent and offense actually succeeded.  Hard to make them pay when you dont even make the easy ones.   

Though I think Shula is a shitty OC compared to his colleagues, he is good for Cam.  Its become obvious our tackles are inefficient in our offense.  Our WR corps cant even start to get hot because Cam cant get rid of the ball and KB cant separate and doesn't look like he did before the injury.  A good OC would scheme and make things work but without pro level tackles?   Oher is way better than Remmers but he should be our 2nd best tackle.  He's not a stud, just a piece that has some skillsets.  So yeah its not all on Shula, our talent is not great at KEY positions.  Like the positions Davegettleman supposedly covets.. 

 

 

[Khyber53]

16 minutes ago, carolinajay said:

What in the blue hell does that have to do with anything? 

Cam's "fashion" has been more interesting than his game play here of lates. If it keeps up, he'll go full on Clinton Portis on us.

Actually, I'm just trolling a bit on that. But really, his game play is way down from last year and barring Cam coming out and saying "Here's where my difficulty is" picking on his rather ridiculous fashion statements is about as valid as anything else that is being offered up.

His accuracy is down, he doesn't run with authority anymore, he is taking a heck of a beating, but he is holding onto that ball longer and longer waiting for someone to get open. It's almost like he isn't playing up to speed. Maybe it's the head shots from the first game, or the second, or the third. Or maybe he spent too much time listening to the hype in the offseason. Who really knows except Cam?

[truthjuice]

25 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Cam's "fashion" has been more interesting than his game play here of lates. If it keeps up, he'll go full on Clinton Portis on us.

Actually, I'm just trolling a bit on that. But really, his game play is way down from last year and barring Cam coming out and saying "Here's where my difficulty is" picking on his rather ridiculous fashion statements is about as valid as anything else that is being offered up.

His accuracy is down, he doesn't run with authority anymore, he is taking a heck of a beating, but he is holding onto that ball longer and longer waiting for someone to get open. It's almost like he isn't playing up to speed. Maybe it's the head shots from the first game, or the second, or the third. Or maybe he spent too much time listening to the hype in the offseason. Who really knows except Cam?

But it could be the beating he's taken in 4 games. Four. He hasn't looked the same since the hit from Stewart. The one RR should've really been pissed about. His decision making, his timing, I believe it stems from that because he just hasn't looked like Cam. Trust is a big thing right now. But he's never going to say. I really don't think they hype has him though, I just don't believe he's healthy right now and he isn't believing his offense, his OC, his HC or himself. This is fixable though. 

[carolinajay]

3 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

His accuracy is down, he doesn't run with authority anymore, he is taking a heck of a beating, but he is holding onto that ball longer and longer waiting for someone to get open. It's almost like he isn't playing up to speed. Maybe it's the head shots from the first game, or the second, or the third. Or maybe he spent too much time listening to the hype in the offseason. Who really knows except Cam?

As soon as he drops back he's under pressure which is a offensive line problem but I will agree that he's holding on to the ball too long. His accuracy may be a result of the team not being able to run the ball, who's going to bite off play action or respect the pass without a run game.

Cam is currently the team's best runner and teams are containing him. Cam was criticized more this off season than praised so I doubt he believed his own hype. 

[Kevin Greene]

Gruden and MNF talking about exactly what I'm saying here.