WESTWORLD

[Mr. Scot]

6 hours ago, Wyank said:

No I didn't. I didn't know about it until someone else posted about it.  Apparently there was a TV show back in the day too.  

Is it good? 

Futureworld isn't as good or as original as Westworld was, but it's decent and worth a watch. The series was meh.

Side Note: On the topic of originality, I've long felt James Cameron at least partially ripped off Westworld with The Terminator. The Gunslinger was the original Terminator.

[Zaximus]

23 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Futureworld isn't as good or as original as Westworld was, but it's decent and worth a watch. The series was meh.

Side Note: On the topic of originality, I've long felt James Cameron at least partially ripped off Westworld with The Terminator. The Gunslinger was the original Terminator.

I actually think most AI/robot movies after Westworld copied it in a way.   It's really important in film history.  

[Moorgan]

I don't think Maeve has achieved full sentience (completed the maze) because her coming back to the park (getting off the train) was written into her story (as alluded to by Bernard when she grabs the computer and smashes indignantly saying that her decisions are her own....which they aren't).

I don't see why people would pay $40K per day to go to downtown Detroit or Chicago. If you can now die then it seems like a place rich people will avoid. But they show producers said basically season 2 will be about the chaos that Anthony Hopkins has unleashed. He said it took him 35 years to realize the same thing that Arnold did....that the hosts are alive. His new narrative is one of freedom for the hosts (that have completed the maze). The MiB/William was definitely happy to see it even though he got shot in the arm.

I could see them starting season 2 in SamuraiWorld (SW emblem on the walls in samurai area) and then the events of season 1 catching up and spilling over to the other parks. I guess I can't really see where the show is going. Why would anyone pay to go there anymore? Loved the show though. Could've stood alone as just 1 season. I am curious to see how they do season 2 though.

[Zaximus]

1 hour ago, Moorgan said:

I don't think Maeve has achieved full sentience (completed the maze) because her coming back to the park (getting off the train) was written into her story (as alluded to by Bernard when she grabs the computer and smashes indignantly saying that her decisions are her own....which they aren't).

I don't see why people would pay $40K per day to go to downtown Detroit or Chicago. If you can now die then it seems like a place rich people will avoid. But they show producers said basically season 2 will be about the chaos that Anthony Hopkins has unleashed. He said it took him 35 years to realize the same thing that Arnold did....that the hosts are alive. His new narrative is one of freedom for the hosts (that have completed the maze). The MiB/William was definitely happy to see it even though he got shot in the arm.

I could see them starting season 2 in SamuraiWorld (SW emblem on the walls in samurai area) and then the events of season 1 catching up and spilling over to the other parks. I guess I can't really see where the show is going. Why would anyone pay to go there anymore? Loved the show though. Could've stood alone as just 1 season. I am curious to see how they do season 2 though.

Maeve is alive now.  Her choosing to go back into the park proves this.   The scene where the tech guy explains she's been programmed to do all this, shows right there on the tablet "Mainland infiltration" as the narrative she was programmed for.   Ford wants her to go out into the world, but she, on her own, chose to go back because of the daughter.     The only reason hosts became fully aware, is because of "suffering", the fourth piece on the pyramid that Arnold figured out (which is also alluded to in an earlier scene with Ford and Bernard on a chalk board).   The maze isn't an actual maze, so she DID complete it with the suffering.  The suffering of losing a child is what made her aware (when William kills the daughter and realizes this himself).  

In season 2, I think we can expect Dolores to actually be a sort of bad guy in the park that maybe Maeve or Bernard have to contend with.   The robots will be running the show (William will probably be hanging around) at this point.  

[Moorgan]

5 minutes ago, Zaximus said:

Maeve is alive now.  Her choosing to go back into the park proves this.   The scene where the tech guy explains she's been programmed to do all this, shows right there on the tablet "Mainland infiltration" as the narrative she was programmed for.   Ford wants her to go out into the world, but she, on her own, chose to go back because of the daughter.     The only reason hosts became fully aware, is because of "suffering", the fourth piece on the pyramid that Arnold figured out (which is also alluded to in an earlier scene with Ford and Bernard on a chalk board).   The maze isn't an actual maze, so she DID complete it with the suffering.  The suffering of losing a child is what made her aware (when William kills the daughter and realizes this himself).  

In season 2, I think we can expect Dolores to actually be a sort of bad guy in the park that maybe Maeve or Bernard have to contend with.   The robots will be running the show (William will probably be hanging around) at this point.  

I didn't see the Mainland Infiltration thing but Arnold did allude to the idea that she was programmed to choose to come back. But I get what you're saying and agree. The problem with the whole thing though is why would people pay to go to the park anymore?

[Zaximus]

53 minutes ago, Moorgan said:

I didn't see the Mainland Infiltration thing but Arnold did allude to the idea that she was programmed to choose to come back. But I get what you're saying and agree. The problem with the whole thing though is why would people pay to go to the park anymore?

We'll have to see.   Maybe they replace all the board members and everyone else.   The original accident at the park was covered up too 30 years before, albeit on a much smaller scale.   Even though the show producers said "That was a real Ford" at the end, I can't help wondering if he transferred his consciousness into a host, maybe that one we seen him creating in his secret lab.   He did allude to "living on" when referring musical works from people on the speech.  

Here is a image of the infiltration thingy:  

 

https://m.reddit.com/r/westworld/comments/5gjtz3/narrative_mainland_infiltration/

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

Warning***kinda Spoiler alerty** for the movie Vice?!? Wth

I was startled awake to the movie Vice, with Bruce Willis(on HBO currently) bc I was hearing dialouge and scenes about a resort with androids that are becoming sentient...I thought what episode is THIS?!?

Then I watched about an hour of a Sci-fi quality-B grade movie of poor acting and awful dialouge....however, it seems to be wholly inspired by the old Westworld movie and has sort of a ton of potential plot spoilers for Westworld as there is a "board" who is developing the andriods for law enforcement and military purposes.  A love story..etc..and came out in 2015?

A curious watch for maybe Westworld nerds but it is awful. 

 

[Bronn]

FWIW I gave Westworld several good tries and just couldn't get into the hype. I literally fell asleep multiple times at different points of different episodes. I think I made it to episode 5 (haven't finished it yet) but I don't know if I can keep watching.

[Johnny Rockets]

1 hour ago, Bronn said:

FWIW I gave Westworld several good tries and just couldn't get into the hype. I literally fell asleep multiple times at different points of different episodes. I think I made it to episode 5 (haven't finished it yet) but I don't know if I can keep watching.

I get what you are saying because I couldn't get into it much either in the beginning but since you made it that far, I recommend you keep watching. I found it much more interesting after about episode 5 or 6 and was glad I stuck with it.  

[Darth Biscuit]

23 hours ago, Bronn said:

FWIW I gave Westworld several good tries and just couldn't get into the hype. I literally fell asleep multiple times at different points of different episodes. I think I made it to episode 5 (haven't finished it yet) but I don't know if I can keep watching.

 

21 hours ago, Johnny Rockets said:

I get what you are saying because I couldn't get into it much either in the beginning but since you made it that far, I recommend you keep watching. I found it much more interesting after about episode 5 or 6 and was glad I stuck with it.  

 

Robots and titties Bronn, Robots and Titties.  What part of this is so hard?  ;)