Cam Newton Is Just A Football Player

[panthers55]

2 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

Then don't fuging speak on poo why is that so damn hard to comprehend?? Plenty of high influential blacks that don't speak on this poo and nobody giving them poo. You people forget Cam doesn't have to say poo as he showed you on the night of the Super Bowl. He's not the damn president he just needs to shut the fug up. 

How hard is it understand that only a fool lets whatever come up come out. He is making a statement designed to have a desired effect and did a great job. Just like Greg Olsen and Thomas Davis. Why aren't you telling them the same thing. Unless you are his publicist, what do you know about what he should say or not. Why don't you take your own advice?

 

[PantherPhann89]

2 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

Sigh, I don't have time to catch you up to speed 

Good, I like where I'm at...

[top dawg]

1 hour ago, Mvp2014 said:

 Cam is an educated man. Its very possible that he has different feelings and life experiences than the people you see 'protesting'.  

I didn't say anything about stamp of approval.  I said he is smart enough or has smart enough people around him not to fall into the trap.  There is nothing to gain from him doing that and alienating fans that love him, regardless of how he feels.  Kap, a benched qb who is going no where has much less to lose. BTW people hated Kap before this poo where he started dating a muslim DJ and playing activist.

BTW Where are the polls on which race hates which qb?  That is pretty ridiculous.  

I don't see anything "ridiculous" about it. It's just a further indication that this country is divided along racial lines.  And Kap was not always hated. The reason that he is now is pretty obvious. Cam is going to alienate fans regardless. He was doing so, simply for being...himself. 

http://fusion.net/story/350147/kaepernick-disliked-by-white-people/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/colin-kaepernick-black-white-divide_us_57cf10cbe4b03d2d4596a9b6

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/09/23/poll-finds-colin-kaepernick-is-americas-most-disliked-nfl-player/

[Kakarot]

Man, i came in here too late. It's already settled down, lol. Truth and Ace, y'all were going in!

Anyways, Cam came out and said he wanted to be more than a football player. He'd tell you he's more than that. My biggest problem with Cam's comments have been his words hurt the fight that so many African Americans are fighting. When he says racism is dead, or we're off that, he gives racists & comfortable people the ammunition they need to say, "no it's not, look even Cam Newton says it's dead." Me, as a black male, I don't need Cam to be an activist. I don't need him to be down with BLM. But, what I need from Cam is to not make my fight anymore harder than it already is. It's tough as hell to be an African American in this country, and actually be successful legally. That swagger that Cam shows on the field weekly, myself and many other African Americans have to turn off when we go to our place of work. I work with 3 other black engineers, and the rest of the company is full of white males & females. Us 4 already know we have to turn on a different switch when we get on the premises. We've got to act "white" per se. My good friend on the job even whitened his name just to get his application looked at. When I pull up next to a police car, I turn my music all the way down just to avoid police altercation. I've been pulled over so many times, it's not even funny. Even had a cop tell me I looked suspicious, that's why he pulled me over. All I'm thinking is damn man, you see the books in my front seat and you see me pulling out the library. What could cause you to be suspicious of me. A lot of us live through Cam. He does it his way, and many of us dream that we could do that. So yea, his comments hurt. But even with that, we most of us not even asking Cam to be a leader or activist. Hundreds of other athletes don't speak up and they're not getting the criticism Cam is getting. All we're asking from homie is to not hurt the fight, and his comments do exactly that. His comments reinforce the status quo.

[Mojo]

9 minutes ago, Kakarot said:

Man, i came in here too late. It's already settled down, lol. Truth and Ace, y'all were going in!

Anyways, Cam came out and said he wanted to be more than a football player. He'd tell you he's more than that. My biggest problem with Cam's comments have been his words hurt the fight that so many African Americans are fighting. When he says racism is dead, or we're off that, he gives racists & comfortable people the ammunition they need to say, "no it's not, look even Cam Newton says it's dead." Me, as a black male, I don't need Cam to be an activist. I don't need him to be down with BLM. But, what I need from Cam is to not make my fight anymore harder than it already is. It's tough as hell to be an African American in this country, and actually be successful legally. That swagger that Cam shows on the field weekly, myself and many other African Americans have to turn off when we go to our place of work. I work with 3 other black engineers, and the rest of the company is full of white males & females. Us 4 already know we have to turn on a different switch when we get on the premises. We've got to act "white" per se. My good friend on the job even whitened his name just to get his application looked at. When I pull up next to a police car, I turn my music all the way down just to avoid police altercation. I've been pulled over so many times, it's not even funny. Even had a cop tell me I looked suspicious, that's why he pulled me over. All I'm thinking is damn man, you see the books in my front seat and you see me pulling out the library. What could cause you to be suspicious of me. A lot of us live through Cam. He does it his way, and many of us dream that we could do that. So yea, his comments hurt. But even with that, we most of us not even asking Cam to be a leader or activist. Hundreds of other athletes don't speak up and they're not getting the criticism Cam is getting. All we're asking from homie is to not hurt the fight, and his comments do exactly that. His comments reinforce the status quo.

[top dawg]

6 minutes ago, Kakarot said:

Man, i came in here too late. It's already settled down, lol. Truth and Ace, y'all were going in!

Anyways, Cam came out and said he wanted to be more than a football player. He'd tell you he's more than that. My biggest problem with Cam's comments have been his words hurt the fight that so many African Americans are fighting. When he says racism is dead, or we're off that, he gives racists & comfortable people the ammunition they need to say, "no it's not, look even Cam Newton says it's dead." Me, as a black male, I don't need Cam to be an activist. I don't need him to be down with BLM. But, what I need from Cam is to not make my fight anymore harder than it already is. It's tough as hell to be an African American in this country, and actually be successful legally. That swagger that Cam shows on the field weekly, myself and many other African Americans have to turn off when we go to our place of work. I work with 3 other black engineers, and the rest of the company is full of white males & females. Us 4 already know we have to turn on a different switch when we get on the premises. We've got to act "white" per se. My good friend on the job even whitened his name just to get his application looked at. When I pull up next to a police car, I turn my music all the way down just to avoid police altercation. I've been pulled over so many times, it's not even funny. Even had a cop tell me I looked suspicious, that's why he pulled me over. All I'm thinking is damn man, you see the books in my front seat and you see me pulling out the library. What could cause you to be suspicious of me. A lot of us live through Cam. He does it his way, and many of us dream that we could do that. So yea, his comments hurt. But even with that, we most of us not even asking Cam to be a leader or activist. Hundreds of other athletes don't speak up and they're not getting the criticism Cam is getting. All we're asking from homie is to not hurt the fight, and his comments do exactly that. His comments reinforce the status quo.

Yeah I get your point. I try to be as objective as possible when it comes to these sensitive matters, but I also believe in telling the truth. To suggest in any shape, form or matter that racism is dead, or that we as a nation are beyond that, is just the height of naivety, just being plain disingenuous, or trying not to be confrontational notwithstanding the truth. You can't fix the problems until you're honest about and acknowledge the problems. If you're not going to do this, then at least say something to the effect that your opinions are personal on the matter. Yeah, some people won't like it, but it's a lot less provocative and subject to great criticism.

[truthjuice]

34 minutes ago, Kakarot said:

Man, i came in here too late. It's already settled down, lol. Truth and Ace, y'all were going in!

Anyways, Cam came out and said he wanted to be more than a football player. He'd tell you he's more than that. My biggest problem with Cam's comments have been his words hurt the fight that so many African Americans are fighting. When he says racism is dead, or we're off that, he gives racists & comfortable people the ammunition they need to say, "no it's not, look even Cam Newton says it's dead." Me, as a black male, I don't need Cam to be an activist. I don't need him to be down with BLM. But, what I need from Cam is to not make my fight anymore harder than it already is. It's tough as hell to be an African American in this country, and actually be successful legally. That swagger that Cam shows on the field weekly, myself and many other African Americans have to turn off when we go to our place of work. I work with 3 other black engineers, and the rest of the company is full of white males & females. Us 4 already know we have to turn on a different switch when we get on the premises. We've got to act "white" per se. My good friend on the job even whitened his name just to get his application looked at. When I pull up next to a police car, I turn my music all the way down just to avoid police altercation. I've been pulled over so many times, it's not even funny. Even had a cop tell me I looked suspicious, that's why he pulled me over. All I'm thinking is damn man, you see the books in my front seat and you see me pulling out the library. What could cause you to be suspicious of me. A lot of us live through Cam. He does it his way, and many of us dream that we could do that. So yea, his comments hurt. But even with that, we most of us not even asking Cam to be a leader or activist. Hundreds of other athletes don't speak up and they're not getting the criticism Cam is getting. All we're asking from homie is to not hurt the fight, and his comments do exactly that. His comments reinforce the status quo.

Whole discussion can end now. 

[fieryprophet]

24 minutes ago, Kakarot said:

Man, i came in here too late. It's already settled down, lol. Truth and Ace, y'all were going in!

Anyways, Cam came out and said he wanted to be more than a football player. He'd tell you he's more than that. My biggest problem with Cam's comments have been his words hurt the fight that so many African Americans are fighting. When he says racism is dead, or we're off that, he gives racists & comfortable people the ammunition they need to say, "no it's not, look even Cam Newton says it's dead." Me, as a black male, I don't need Cam to be an activist. I don't need him to be down with BLM. But, what I need from Cam is to not make my fight anymore harder than it already is. It's tough as hell to be an African American in this country, and actually be successful legally. That swagger that Cam shows on the field weekly, myself and many other African Americans have to turn off when we go to our place of work. I work with 3 other black engineers, and the rest of the company is full of white males & females. Us 4 already know we have to turn on a different switch when we get on the premises. We've got to act "white" per se. My good friend on the job even whitened his name just to get his application looked at. When I pull up next to a police car, I turn my music all the way down just to avoid police altercation. I've been pulled over so many times, it's not even funny. Even had a cop tell me I looked suspicious, that's why he pulled me over. All I'm thinking is damn man, you see the books in my front seat and you see me pulling out the library. What could cause you to be suspicious of me. A lot of us live through Cam. He does it his way, and many of us dream that we could do that. So yea, his comments hurt. But even with that, we most of us not even asking Cam to be a leader or activist. Hundreds of other athletes don't speak up and they're not getting the criticism Cam is getting. All we're asking from homie is to not hurt the fight, and his comments do exactly that. His comments reinforce the status quo.

I think his "we're beyond race" comments were more milquetoast than anything he said in this week's presser, as they really overlook the reality for many Americans, but I wouldn't say he's harming the cause for justice. Bigots aren't changed by people speaking truth to them, so someone saying something they want to hear isn't going to change their mind either. It didn't take Colin Kaepernick to open my eyes to the reality of racism facing blacks, I grew up seeing how they were treated differently than I was and came to that conclusion myself. If anything, the media has been peddling much more dangerous falsehoods in implying that race problems only existed in dangerous inner cities and the like when it was just as prevalent in small towns and supposedly "liberal" areas, often in more insidious ways.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, truthjuice said:

Whole discussion can end now. 

Not really.

The notion that Cam Newton is making it harder for other black people is kind of silly.

[CPantherKing]

5 hours ago, beastson said:

He's not the Mayor of Charlotte, he's not the governor of NC, he's not a Senator, and he's the not the President of the United States

If he considers himself a citizen or leader of the Charlotte community, then he has an ethical obligation to act as a responsible citizen.

I believe he has done this with his comments to the media.

Now, I do not believe the media should be writing articles that treat Cam as an expert on the issues. I do believe they have the duty as a journalist to frame Cam's comments as a community leader's concerns for their community.

Elected representatives should be the ones engaging their communities and the leaders of their communities at this time. This should lead to actions by these elected representatives. Instead, it appears the media is more active on the crisis in Charlotte than the actual elected representatives.

The latest representation for Charlotte is Representative Robert Pittenger making statements that protesters are racist and "hate white people" because "white people are successful and they're not."

 

[Kakarot]

41 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Not really.

The notion that Cam Newton is making it harder for other black people is kind of silly.

Arrogant response. A real arrogant response, but it's what I expect from you.  You're not a black male or female, so how would you know? 

[Mr. Scot]

13 minutes ago, Kakarot said:

Arrogant response. A real arrogant response, and but it's what I expect from you.  You're not a black male or female, so how would you know? 

Because the whole notion is kind of ridiculous.

If you really wanna believe that somehow Cam Newton not saying what you think he should say somehow makes your life harder, feel free. While you're at it, tell me how the opinions of Kevin Hart, Smokey Robinson and Wayne Brady affect your life as well.

The kind of responsibility you're trying to saddle Newton with is just unwarranted.

[truthjuice]

36 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Not really.

The notion that Cam Newton is making it harder for other black people is kind of silly.

Lol, okay. 

[Kakarot]

31 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Because the whole notion is kind of ridiculous.

If you really wanna believe that somehow Cam Newton not saying what you think he should say somehow makes your life harder, feel free. While you're at it, tell me how the opinions of Kevin Hart, Smokey Robinson and Wayne Brady affect your life as well.

The kind of responsibility you're trying to saddle Newton with is just unwarranted.

Of course it's ridiculous to you. You don't have to go through what many blacks have to go through. You don't have to deal with many discriminations. You don't have to deal with the fact that my name might be Tyquan, but I shorten my name to Ty so my name is less ethnic. Cam, as well as myself, Truth, etc have to be careful of what we say, because I don't want to hurt the next brother or sister through my words. Not only do I have to be careful of what I say, but I have to be careful of my actions because if I screw up, then I sew that seed of doubt in my managers head to where he now feels that all blacks screw up or are not fully capable to do the job. That's systematic racism in effect, and Cam's words allow for the status quo to remain. I don't care what you or anyone says, Cam might have eased the mind of one to where they feel they can continue to do what they're doing. Cam's words give that ammunition. When you're in a position of power, you have to be careful of what you say or do, because your words influence. Your lack of understanding is crazy, but not surprising. I expect you not to understand, but your arrogance low key infuriates me. Who are you to say what any of us are saying in here is ridiculous. People like you are a problem.