Gil Brandt: James Bradberry Has the Lowest DB Burn Rate Through 2 Weeks

[d-dave]

25 minutes ago, Clicheking said:

Jesus fuging Christ do you have any joy in life or are you always this miserable???

I try to ignore him.  I understand a pessimistic outlook on things, but CPK takes it to a whole new level.  I'm wondering if he'll fall off the scale and go full circle on us?

The reality, he's playing well at what he's asked.  He's made mistakes, but he's learning.  It's only two regular season game, and we'll have a much better view of things in late October.  From the piece written about him, he seems to be very self critical and like he has something to prove.  The strong, silent type. 

[top dawg]

Despite a decidedly weak attempt to throw shade on Bradberry by one or two in this thread after only his second start as a pro during the regular season---even if the "burn" stat is decidedly inconsequential or meaningless---my eyes, as well as results, tells me this kid is going to be special.

[CPantherKing]

16 hours ago, BountyHunter said:

It took Josh Norman almost 3 years to crack the starting lineup on a consistent basis and get recognition.  Bradberry's getting recognized and receiving national attention for his good play after only 2 games.  Let that sink in.

How many of you actually believe this?

First, Josh Norman was the Panthers starter in his very first game. He remained the starter for 12 games until he hit the rookie wall and started making consistent mistakes. The rookie wall is real.

Second, Bradberry is not getting national attention for his play. He is getting a skewed assessment for his play against the 49ers from PFF.

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Bradberry (93.3): Ironically, the only cornerback to outperform Josh Norman this week was the rookie tasked with filling his shoes in Carolina. Going up against the 49ers receivers will help, but Bradberry allowed just one catch on seven targets, and it went for only six yards. He notched a pick and a pass defensed, and when targeted yielded a passer rating of 0.0.

We all know Bradberry gave up that TD, and Gabbert took the easy 6 based on the key of Bradberry turning his hips away from the receiver believing he was running a fade route instead of a post. Bradberry had one job on that play where he gave up the TD and it was to stay man to man on Smith's hip.

That is not staying on Smith's hip. That is called getting burned for 6 and letting the receiver get behind you. Even if this were meant to be high low coverage on Smith, Bradberry is no where near being on top of Smith in coverage.

Read the article breaking down the play in detail.  Film Analysis: Torrey Smith’s TD catch against Carolina. I am not going over it again. This was on Bradberry.

PFF failing to assign any, if not all, of the fault for this easy TD to Bradberry shows you how loose PFF's analysis is using their own flawed grading metrics. He did not allow just one catch for a passer rating of 0.0. Anyone watching the game could tell you that much. Luke Kuechly looking at Bradberry in coverage during that play and initially shaking his head in disgust to the trailing coverage is telling.

This does not even take into account his ability to keep to his assignment, make proper reads and defend the run.

[ecu88]

CPK be like

[dugbug]

17 minutes ago, ecu88 said:

CPK be like

Where on earth did you find that.  Lol what  is she upset about? Walmart ran out of sams hotdogs?

[Datawire]

42 minutes ago, dugbug said:

Where on earth did you find that.  Lol what  is she upset about? Walmart ran out of sams hotdogs?

I bet the back of her neck looks like a pack of hot dogs.

[heelinfine]

4 hours ago, ecu88 said:

CPK be like

LMFAO, Thats the college snowflake they started calling Triggly Puff. She was throwing a tantrum because a non PC comedian was invited to speak on campus. 

[CPantherKing]

46 minutes ago, stbugs said:

We play zone, not man to man, so other players being out of position can make the wrong person look culpable.

You need to watch the play. When the LB on the TE (Davis) releases the TE to the third level to press the flat, then this tells the safety that the TE is now his responsibility deep. Yes, Boston did not have enough depth and failed to narrow the window to the post, but the WR was not Boston's responsibility prior to the pass. He was responsible for managing the top of the TE and the underneath of the WR. He trusted Bradberry to take the WR man on a fade or stay over top the WR and cut off his depth on the post. Bradberry got flat out beat on that play and lost his position. He did the one thing a CB should never do and that is turning his hips away from the QB prior to the pass. That is what keyed the post route for Gabbert and allowed Smith to extend the depth on his route.

Rivera does place fault on Bradberry in his quote, but you left that part out.

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"James Bradberry’s touchdown wasn’t all his fault."

This means that it was Bradberry's fault and his responsibility, but some blame could be placed on Boston. You try to make it look like the WR was Boston's responsibility and that Boston is the reason for the TD. Nice try.

Also, Rivera was wrong about Gabbert keying on Boston biting on the TE. Boston does not make his break on the TE until Gabbert has thrown the ball. Rivera believed prior to seeing the film that Boston bit and then Gabbert threw the ball. Rivera failed to see Gabbert key on Bradberry biting on the double move to the fade route and turning his hips. This is what made Gabbert throw to the post. If Bradberry stays on his hip, then Gabbert holds the ball longer waiting for the WR or TE to clear the zone occupied by the safety.

We all know that Rivera makes mistakes. History has proven that.

Next you are going to tell me that the TD to the TE was Luke's fault and not Worley's fault for falling on the ground because he could not keep his feet, which allowed the TE to escape. This also was not entirely Worley's fault because Coleman took a bad angle and hesitated in his pursuit. That pursuit was impeded by Worley falling down. Worley was responsible for forcing the TE back to Luke and Coleman if you must know.

[Murph]

5 minutes ago, heelinfine said:

LMFAO, Thats the college snowflake they started calling Triggly Puff. She was throwing a tantrum because a non PC comedian was invited to speak on campus. 

Knowing this makes it twice as funny.

[MHS831]

1. Bradberry is a player.  I got mad when we drafted him.  If you need PFF to see that he is good, you need to watch more.

[Mr. Scot]

58 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

Rivera does place fault on Bradberry in his quote, but you left that part out.

This means that it was Bradberry's fault and his responsibility, but some blame could be placed on Boston. You try to make it look like the WR was Boston's responsibility and that Boston is the reason for the TD. Nice try.

Also, Rivera was wrong about Gabbert keying on Boston biting on the TE. Boston does not make his break on the TE until Gabbert has thrown the ball. Rivera believed prior to seeing the film that Boston bit and then Gabbert threw the ball. Rivera failed to see Gabbert key on Bradberry biting on the double move to the fade route and turning his hips. This is what made Gabbert throw to the post. If Bradberry stays on his hip, then Gabbert holds the ball longer waiting for the WR or TE to clear the zone occupied by the safety.

We all know that Rivera makes mistakes. History has proven that.

Still trying to deceive, I see (and still sucking at it)

"James Bradberry’s touchdown wasn’t all his fault."

That's not a Ron Rivera quote. It's an attempt on your part to rework this paragraph written by Bill Voth.

Carolina coach Ron Rivera concurred. He didn’t put all the blame on Bradberry for Torrey Smith’s second-quarter, 28-yard touchdown that gave the 49ers a 10-7 lead.

Here's what Rivera actually said:

“We should have had a guy that should have been in the post there to help him," said Rivera, referring to the safety. “He wasn’t. He bit on the underneath and he can’t do that because that is exactly what is going to happen."

Nothing in that quote support anything that you're suggesting.

Oh, and your notion that Rivera was wrong in his analysis of the play...

Granted, another s--tpost from you is no surprise...

Stuff like this is why you have zero credibility.

[CPantherKing]

18 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That's not a Ron Rivera quote. It's an attempt on your part to rework this paragraph written by Bill Voth.

Here's what Rivera actually said:

No. Here is what Rivera actually said. Argue with this...

"Bradberry's touchdown wasn't all his fault."

He infers Bradberry was at fault and never denies that Bradberry is not responsible for giving up that TD. He calls it 'Bradberry's touchdown' and not 'Boston's touchdown'.

Nice try.

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

No. Here is what Rivera actually said. Argue with this...

"Bradberry's touchdown wasn't all his fault."

He infers Bradberry was at fault and never denies that Bradberry is not responsible for giving up that TD. He calls it 'Bradberry's touchdown' and not 'Boston's touchdown'.

Nice try.

So since you posted the video, that means you can post the time index where the comment occurred, right?

[Mr. Scot]

7 minutes ago, stbugs said:

I don't think you get it at all. You continue to miss the important parts. The reporter calls it "Bradberry's touchdown", he is responding to her calling it that and saying it wasn't all his fault. He's trying to make sure she understands what happens. I'm pretty sure you got through elementary school, so you may remember the technique of answering a question by restating the question as part of his answer. My

He then explains that the safety was supposed to be there, which again you refuse to acknowledge. PFF understands that as well. It is so simple, but you continue to try and find your truth and sorry, it's wrong. The safety was out of position. Simple as that, but amazing you try and trick people by starting the video after the question.

He's not trying to get it.

He figures if he just posts the video people will say "oh, okay" and believe him.

Problem is, people already know he makes s--t up so they know better than to take anything he says seriously.

It's highly amusing to see him try though. Always good for a laugh...