On this Team Taking Their Feet Off the Pedal

[TheNewStandard]

1 minute ago, Fox007 said:

Yea it was the defense not so much the offense and penalties hurt as well when we were moving the ball in the second half. I think the prevent when we had big leads last year helped gas our players out too as they were out there for more snaps since they literally let them have pitch and catch 7-10 yard players.

Those penalties were petty. The Turner hold was a crock. 

I can't believe that first long near-TD to Ginn wasn't flagged in the endzone to put us at the 1.

[TheNewStandard]

6 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

I really hate that...I go on the philosophy you got to where you are by playing the damn defense you been playing...why just let teams get into a rhythm and gain confidence...it literally does allow them to think they can come back and instead of giving up as teams(or at least individual players) will do and have admitted to doing...we let them have a  glimmer of hope and they fight back hard.

Need to have that killer instinct from the coaches I know Cam would run the score up if he could. I'd be all Belichick in that regard if I was coaching NFL.

It also takes rhythm away from our offense and team as a whole. It's like we have 2-different teams playing and we need the whole team playing consistently for 60

[TheNewStandard]

22 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

There's something funny about the thread title.

How many feet can fit on 1 pedal?

[Davidson Deac II]

SF scored one td that wasn't the result of a turnover, and that was a missed assignment and bad coverage.  The defenders started the play within 5 yards of the receivers, but they got burned.  The defense played as they should for most of the day.  The offense kept pushing it up the field and our last td was a shot going for the jugular when a fg probably would have secured the game. I watched the replays of some of the plays in the 4th qtr, and the 10 foot  cushion was rare, I only saw one instance of it.   In this case, taking the foot off the gas is mostly in the minds of the posters.    

[TheNewStandard]

5 minutes ago, Sapper said:

Bump this if we lose to Minny

It just happened so much last season...it's like we were never tested and it bit us when we got our faces knocked in against Denver.

having said that, we've been tested three games in a row now.

[TheNewStandard]

2 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

SF scored one td that wasn't the result of a turnover, and that was a missed assignment.  The defense played as they should for most of the day.  The offense kept pushing it up the field and our last td was a shot going for the jugular when a fg probably would have secured the game. I watched the replays of some of the plays in the 4th qtr, and the 10 foot  cushion was rare, I only saw one instance of it.   In this case, taking the foot off the gas is mostly in the minds of the posters.    

I don't know. You start seeing reserves in twice as much as they usually are and I call that letting off the gas.

Just look at the personnel. I know it was hot, but we saw a lot of the rookies and reserves out there.

[Davidson Deac II]

Just now, TheNewStandard said:

I don't know. You start seeing reserves in twice as much as they usually are and I call that letting off the gas.

Just look at the personnel. I know it was hot, but we saw a lot of the rookies and reserves out there.

Perhaps we do have more reserves in, but since we are playing 5 or 6 dbacks in those situations, there are going to be some reserves in by necessity.  And it probably didn't help that Mcclain was out for a little while.  And if you are going to work the reserves, that is the best time.  

I don't think there was really a intentional decision to take the foot off, but I do think we mentally relax a little to much.  I can't explain Ginn's handling of the kickoff any other way.   

 

 

[TheNewStandard]

5 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Perhaps we do have more reserves in, but since we are playing 5 or 6 dbacks in those situations, there are going to be some reserves in by necessity.  And it probably didn't help that Mcclain was out for a little while.  And if you are going to work the reserves, that is the best time.  

I don't think there was really a intentional decision to take the foot off, but I do think we mentally relax a little to much.  I can't explain Ginn's handling of the kickoff any other way.   

 

 

I agree. The Ginn play was a fluke (I hope...,) but he surely made up for it on that 40+ yard return to help ice the game for good...what a burst of speed that was.

[TheNewStandard]

31 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

Yea it was the defense not so much the offense and penalties hurt as well when we were moving the ball in the second half. I think the prevent when we had big leads last year helped gas our players out too as they were out there for more snaps since they literally let them have pitch and catch 7-10 yard players.

Speaking of penalties,...didn't Kalil have 3?...that's really uncharacteristic. 

[Sapper]

32 minutes ago, TheNewStandard said:

It just happened so much last season...it's like we were never tested and it bit us when we got our faces knocked in against Denver.

having said that, we've been tested three games in a row now.

Played 2, but you make a great point

[Mr. Scot]

This is a common criticism of defensive coaches, actually.

Defensive coaches often look at leads the same way squirrels look at acorns. As soon as they have one, they go into protection mode.

To be honest though, you can't win. Go aggressive and make a big gamble that gets exploited and everyone will be screaming at you that you should have been conservative and played prevent.

[Davidson Deac II]

12 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

This is a common criticism of defensive coaches, actually.

Defensive coaches often look at leads the same way squirrels look at acorns. As soon as they have one, they go into protection mode.

To be honest though, you can't win. Go aggressive and make a big gamble that gets exploited and everyone will be screaming at you that you should have been conservative and played prevent.

Agreed.  Its kind of a no win scenario.

 

Its pretty much common sense that you have to change your style of defense when a team sheds the run game and goes almost exclusively pass.  When a team goes to six db's with a 2td+ lead in the 4th qtr, that is not really a prevent defense, its just adjusting to the changes that are happening.  And the last thing a defense wants in that situation is to get beat deep and or give up a quick score.  I do however hate to see a team start rushing only 3.  IMO, that is a recipe for disaster.  Maybe if its a hail mary situation, but that is about the only time we should only rush three. 

[Adb6368]

13 hours ago, CRA said:

Can fumbled and the Ginn mishap occurred in a small window.  I don't feel they took their foot off like in the past.  They had to errors and kept going after them the whole time on O

It seemed like both of these were lapse in judgement though... Cam was holding the ball out and didn't have the grip he needed to prevent the hit. And Ginn just completely lost focus and was jogging towards the ball. Both of those are signs of a team that relaxed a little. Ginn a lot more than Cam, but still... I feel like neither of those plays should have happened like that.