NFL sets standard for defense

[The_Light_Brigade]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.  If you take away their helmets they'll stop using their heads as weapons.  

[Fox007]

They need to really discuss taking the player out of the game who is delivering the head shots...I honestly cannot believe there are such unintelligent people in charge of this. They are saying we are trying to get rid of head shots by taking the person out of the game who gets hit but then fine the player who did the hit 20,000 dollars...

How many defenders would gladly pay 20,000 dollars for a win? all of them? It's hilariously bad logic and really shows how the NFL leadership has no actual brain function. You are trying to take something away by punishing the person who is the victim....great logic lets throw robbery victims in jail for getting robbed.

 

 

[Seamonk]

I feel like in order for a ref to have the ability to take a player out of the game for safety reasons, they HAVE to throw a flag on the same play. Otherwise, leave it up to the team and monitor how they follow protocol for legal hits that can cause a possible concussion. 

Secondly, I don't get this 'runner stance' vs. 'passer stance' garbage that Blandino has vomited. He legit made that up 100%. For Cam and other running qbs, the hardest hits they take are in the pocket. Blandino has taken it upon himself for officials (who are already having a difficult time determining if a hit was helmet-to-helmet) to now determine what stance a player is in while they're receiving illegal hits. 'He looked like he was about to run' said the Official who saw Cam Newton take another hit to the head in the pocket on why there was no flag thrown. It's a joke. Intentionally creating vague and open ended legal distinction should be left to actual law, not a rulebook for a game. 

[UnluckyCharms]

2 hours ago, The_Light_Brigade said:

I've said it before and I'll say it again.  If you take away their helmets they'll stop using their heads as weapons.  

Smart lets put men running 15-18 mph at one another out on the field without head gear. Surely no one will die from that.

[The_Light_Brigade]

On 9/16/2016 at 11:44 AM, UnluckyCharms said:

Smart lets put men running 15-18 mph at one another out on the field without head gear. Surely no one will die from that.

Let's see how many lead with their head when they don't have a helmet protecting them. Then they might be actually forced to tackle instead of hit.

[Harbingers]

2 minutes ago, The_Light_Brigade said:

Let's see how many lead with their head when they don't have a helmet protecting them. Then they might be actually forced to tackle instead of hit.

I have friends who plays Rugby... There are no less concussions without helmets then there are with. In fact, there quite possibly could be more. 

[The_Light_Brigade]

Just now, Harbingers said:

I have friends who plays Rugby... There are no less concussions without helmets then there are with. In fact, there quite possibly could be more. 

I don't doubt it.  My argument is that we want more safety advances but everyone keeps pointing at the helmets and rules.  If we could get players to stop using their heads the numbers would decrease.  Technique has a lot to do with it.

[London Loves Luke]

25 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

I have friends who plays Rugby... There are no less concussions without helmets then there are with. In fact, there quite possibly could be more. 

This isn't true at all, there are WAY fewer concussions in rugby than there are in the NFL. The single biggest reason is technique, being taught to shoulder and arm tackle with your head to the side of the ball carriers thigh. Second biggest reason is playing without a helmet, which leads you to protect your head a lot more when both tackling and carrying.

[Harbingers]

16 minutes ago, London Loves Luke said:

This isn't true at all, there are WAY fewer concussions in rugby than there are in the NFL. The single biggest reason is technique, being taught to shoulder and arm tackle with your head to the side of the ball carriers thigh. Second biggest reason is playing without a helmet, which leads you to protect your head a lot more when both tackling and carrying.

Perhaps in Major League Rugby matches and I'm no expert by any stretch of the word. But in amateur leagues here in the states, theres no concussion med professionals, watching these folks clash heads, most of the concussions go unnoticed, you can see them go into that daze.

Honestly, If we take away helmets, head injuries are gonna sky rocket. If more teams would focus on technique like us and the Seahawks, and less on the head hunting hits style like the broncos and rams this league would be a lot better.  

TD is one of the biggest hitters in the game, but you rarely ever see him lead with his head.  

[London Loves Luke]

Just now, Harbingers said:

Perhaps in Major League Rugby matches and I'm no expert by any stretch of the word. But in amateur leagues here in the states, theres no concussion med professionals, watching these folks clash heads, most of the concussions go unnoticed, you can see them go into that daze.

Honestly, If we take away helmets, head injuries are gonna sky rocket. If more teams would focus on technique like us and the Seahawks, and less on the head hunting hits style like the broncos and rams this league would be a lot better.  

TD is one of the biggest hitters in the game, but you rarely ever see him lead with his head.  

I played for 11+ years through school, university and even some amateur club level and can only remember 1 concussion like hit. Watch a lot of professional rugby here in the UK and, honestly, the only difference is technique.

I think we're saying the same thing - without helmets, yes head injuries would be sustained every play because the tackling technique in the NFL is as much about shocking the player into dropping the ball as it is about getting the ball out.

With the right technique and proper rule enforcement, the number of head injuries would significantly decrease. Players DO NOT need to lead with the head to dislodge the ball, nor is it the only way to hurt/shock a QB.