Oh DeAngelo....

[PhillyB]

i eat out an awful lot and despite my sharp, industry-honed eye for shortcomings, i have maybe twice come across truly bad service.

i suspect some of you go into establishments armed with self-fulfilling prophecies and profit on your own perspectiveless standards at the expense of working-class stiffs busting their ass to pour extra ranch down your gullet within the two orbital rotations of an electron you allow before it's bad service in your book

[Ivan The Awesome]

Not many of you worked in the service industry I see.. 

[blackcat]

I'm more pissed at 34 for actually running hard and not being a fat lazy a-hole like he was when he was here.

[cultclassiccat]

I just tipped the Jimmy Johns driver 5$ on 12.  And they forgot my chips.

[dave-o]

Just read an article with all his "tweets" ....  What a drama queen,,,,,  Waaaaaaaa...  They brought out the wrong salad....  Waaaaaa......

[Carl Spackler]

Regardless of your opinion on this (I have none either way) I'm not exactly a DeAngelo fan anymore

Only Panthers who I kept rooting for after they left were Rod Smart, Kris Jenkins, Jake, Clausen and Josh Norman

Though I welcomed Moose back with open arms and later realized Rod Smart was an asshole

[MadHatter]

12 minutes ago, cultclassiccat said:

I just tipped the Jimmy Johns driver 5$ on 12.  And they forgot my chips.

Pizza delivery gets a minimum tip of $10 from me.  Price to pay for even being too lazy to leave the house.

[Sam Mills Fan]

2 hours ago, CPantherKing said:

Incorrect.

Refusing to pay for food or the value of food that you have consumed is not theft. It is a civil matter - not a criminal matter. A refusal must be made to a second party. This begins a negotiation that will result in an agreement. If an agreement is not reached all the patron has to do is provide their contact information if the establishment chooses to take action in civil court.

Consuming and leaving without notifying the establishment is theft. This is a criminal matter. it is referred to as 'Defrauding the Inkeeper' and is based entirely on one's intent to defraud.

Patrons also have a means to bring charges against a place of business using law enforcement through the use of 'Unfair and Deceptive Practices' (UDPTA). You can file a police report and use that report to get the FTC involved with the establishment.

It is very rare police are ever involved in these matters, and it typically happens with business owners who are trying to strong arm customers. However, when the police report is written up and filed on behalf of the establishment it can also be used against them as long as you provide the needed details for the FTC.

I recommend everyone know their rights. Everything is negotiable in business.

You're wrong. In NC at least, If you consume the food and leave without paying, you get hit with defrauding an innkeeper, no caveats. Source: wrote a report up for someone about this earlier today.

 

The only loophole like this I can think of has to do with mainly hair salons. If you get your hair cut and they put no product in your hair or use anything like that, you can legally walk out without paying because you can't steal someone's time. You have to steal a tangible thing. Still though: don't do this.

[CarolinaNCSU]

Everyone should have to work in the restaurant business at some point. 

[TN05]

DeAngelo Williams having a great night. 21 carries for 114 yards and a touchdown, plus 6 catches for 33 yards. Not a bad game from the oldest back in the league.

Glad we let him go because he didn't fit our scheme (downhill running, read-option), but he's perfect for Pittsburgh's scheme. Makes losing Bell not nearly as big of a deal.

[Cj72]

1 hour ago, PhillyB said:

i eat out an awful lot and despite my sharp, industry-honed eye for shortcomings, i have maybe twice come across truly bad service.

i suspect some of you go into establishments armed with self-fulfilling prophecies and profit on your own perspectiveless standards at the expense of working-class stiffs busting their ass to pour extra ranch down your gullet within the two orbital rotations of an electron you allow before it's bad service in your book

I have a friend who is exactly like that. He expects the waitress to read his mind and if his glass gets empty he deducts from the tip. It embarrasses me to no end

[ThPantherFan]

5 hours ago, CPantherKing said:

What if they do not serve you and it is no different than if you picked up the food to go and sat at their table?

Do you still tip 10%?

If I go to the cafeteria and they fill my water, smile, etc., I give them something.  Drive Inn, (Sonic), I give them something.  I know the ones that make better hourly wage than a full sit down lunch or dinner.  I do the best I can to make it good.  I don't tip McDonalds counter workers, if that's what you mean.  And know, I do tip 10% at the cafeteria.

[ThPantherFan]

5 hours ago, E CaT PanTHer 2 said:

honestly I'm usually the same way, only b/c I'm a nice guy. But if you tip servers 10-15% every time without taking their service into consideration, what incentive are you giving them to deliver quality service to the next customer? 

Yes I know they make minimum base salary, but a waiter can make a customers experience very unpleasant with shitty service, not to mention you're already paying a poo ton of money for the food alone. 

Very good point.

[ErgentSeth]

well..Deangelo is getting great service from the washington redskins defense tonight