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Oh DeAngelo....

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SmokinwithWilly Grand Master

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5 minutes ago, Floppin said:

Yeah but I benefit as well. Gave my bartender Friday $100 Bill to pay my $27 tab. Couple weeks back I went out with a pair of doctors, I tried to pay our bill only to find out they already had, so I just tipped the bar staff the $300 I was going to use to pay.

But you know what happens, all the places I frequent I get exceptional service. I can show up to a nice fine dining restaurant wearing a gray pull over sweatshirt and management will ask patrons in $10k suits at the bar to please move down so they can add a chair so I can sit.

It means a lot to the people it helps, and I get a lot out of it too.

I don't get to tip near as well as you, but it's funny to see someone's face when they get asked to scoot over to make room. I used to have signs I hung at the bar for my regulars with their names on it. I knew when they came in and I'd drop their sign about 15 minutes before they got there. Make someone feel special and they're likely to tip well, and come back. I expect more from bartenders than I do regular servers for the most part, and my wife and I usually sit in the bar. You should have seen the look on my wife's face when I told her I used to flirt with every woman over 40 that sat down at my bar. They were my money makers. First drink I learned how to make was a Cosmo. Buzzed middle aged women put me through college. 

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SmokinwithWilly Grand Master

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9 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

got some real low class sumbitches up in here, my god.

here's a story for y'all. i'm an eight-year bartending vet. one night i had a cocktail waitress come in bawling. she had just found out her close friend committed suicide ten minutes before the shift. it was busy and there was no way she could leave, which sucked, but she put on a brave face and sucked it up. you couldn't tell anything was wrong, but she was fuging up left and right. missing orders, putting in the wrong food, dropping drinks, etc.

then this one clown who we'll call Beangelo Billiams sits down with a bunch of impressionable 16 year old kids for a golf tourney for snot nosed rich kids in polo shirts and rolexes their hedge fund manager dads bought them for sophomore graduation. Beangelo Billiams gets awful service (he ordered a pinot noir not grigio) and has to wait on his chicken wings because she put in potato skins instead. and when they come out, Beangelo Billiams proceeds to dress her down in front of the entire crew, calling her a lazy screwup and demanding to know why she was so bad at her job. she left in tears. no tip on a $200 tab. i almost murdered him.

deangelo williams probably didn't go that far, and his server probably didn't lose a friend earlier in the day. but the point is, you, deangelo, and you, beangelo, and you, carolina huddle poster and world citizen, don't fuging know that. you have no idea what's happening behind the scenes. more than likely you are a little weasely-eyed steve buscemi type that looks for excuses not to tip rather than tossing ten percent for bare minimum bad service and at least letting a person make a fuging living. if deangelo williams pay was contingent on doing a good job he'd have lost his paycheck every time he ran into ryan kalil's ass and fell down on third and three. a shame he doesn't have the empathetic capacities to see this.

if you got your food and the server didn't poo on your plate, tip 10%. if it's good service tip 15-20%, if it's great give 'em a little extra love and smile because now no one will think you're a poo human being (and we all think y'all are when we see you stiff servers, we just never tell you. and there are a lot of us.)

or you can just go to wendys. bring deangelo with you.

I think if you've ever worked in the service industry for over a year, you can tell when someone is having a bad day. It's pretty obvious I think. Usually if I wonder I will ask if they're ok. I don't have a problem tipping these people. We've all had days where we didn't want to be there and didn't have a choice. 

I think we all have stories like that. I was having a bad night one night, I mean really really bad. I had 4 seven tops in a row (8 tops were mandatory 18%) that had run up around a combined $800 tab and I had gotten about $10 total in tips. Had a table come in that heard my last table laugh about stiffing me when they walked out. The guy asked me what they had left, and I told him because at that point it really didn't matter. I'll never forget, he told me, you take care of me, I'll take care of you. His tab was around $120. He gave me $200 and told me to keep the change. He was a regular of mine for the next year until his family moved. 

P.S. I can't eat at Wendy's. That's some greasy ass poo. 

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1 hour ago, R0CKnR0LLA said:

I understand leaving a bad tip if there's bad service, regardless of how much money you make.

I also know there are people that never tip worth a damn and look for any minor excuse to justify it, even though it's something they do ALL the time.

Anybody who uses this excuse will never get decent service, because they find things wrong that aren't there. They have the mindset that the service will never be good enough. And will look for problems, no matter how good the service is.

Also, just because the service isn't excellent, don't assume that it's the servers fault. If the cook is having a bad day, the food will suffer, which will mean that the server is already fighting an uphill battle.

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There's nothing worse as a server or bartender than waiting forever for food because the kitchen is in the weeds and then it comes out wrong.

Then you have to have them remake it on the fly while you get to go explain to your already pissed off table what's going on. Good times.

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I agree with bad service but some people are ignorant about the service industry and don't realize two things.

1. The make $2.00 an hour, you should consider that. A cashier at Target might suck ass but they still get minumum wage or around that.

2. Most importantly, people don't understand that some things are not the servers fault. The cooks, managers and other employees have a lot to do with the restaurant business and people try to narrow down things like did they get the order right, were my drink always filled, did the waiter spend enough time with me and act like they gave a poo.

 

These things can easily go wrong due to someone who does not receive any of the tip like the cooks or manager.

 

Just something to think about before being a asshole. I doubt a person like Williams did, he strikes me as the guy who holds a grudge and is a big baby about things but tries to come off as the cool fun guy who isn't that serious. What a joke.

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28 minutes ago, Floppin said:

I know this thread is about tips but I got the impression from this response and others that you seem to be arguing that you can refuse to pay for food that you've consumed. 

That's actually considered theft and is an arrestable offense.

Incorrect.

Refusing to pay for food or the value of food that you have consumed is not theft. It is a civil matter - not a criminal matter. A refusal must be made to a second party. This begins a negotiation that will result in an agreement. If an agreement is not reached all the patron has to do is provide their contact information if the establishment chooses to take action in civil court.

Consuming and leaving without notifying the establishment is theft. This is a criminal matter. it is referred to as 'Defrauding the Inkeeper' and is based entirely on one's intent to defraud.

Patrons also have a means to bring charges against a place of business using law enforcement through the use of 'Unfair and Deceptive Practices' (UDPTA). You can file a police report and use that report to get the FTC involved with the establishment.

It is very rare police are ever involved in these matters, and it typically happens with business owners who are trying to strong arm customers. However, when the police report is written up and filed on behalf of the establishment it can also be used against them as long as you provide the needed details for the FTC.

I recommend everyone know their rights. Everything is negotiable in business.

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