Oh DeAngelo....

[Bronn]

4 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

I love how you insinuate anybody who doesn't leave a lip, is being petty.  

Go be judgemental somewhere else. 

I tip way above average. And if i get to the point where I decide I'm not tipping, then the waiter/waitress is getting exactly what they deserve. 

Cry a river somewhere else.

 

 

I love how you insinuate what I'm insinuating. Go be insinuating somewhere else.

I love how you expect us to believe you can be the asshole who doesn't tip for bad service but that you go out of your way to tip way above average every other time.

I'm not saying if someone hops up on the table and takes a dump on your plate that you should tip them. Ever.

But if they at least took your order, brought you your food and drinks, took it back to the kitchen if it was wrong and took the cook's word for it when they brought it back wrong again, you should give them a bare minimum of 15% of whatever the bill was. If you have further protest, then take it out with the manager and blame the restaurant as whole and not just the server.

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58 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

why can i short a server for poor service but i can't short the establishment for poor food. like if mcdonalds gives me a burger that doesn't look like it does in advertisements i should be able to walk out the door with it without paying and without the police getting involved

If nothing else this thread demonstrates the blatant classism that permeates the moral fabric of this country

for instance you have Mr. Deangelo "feelin so blessed right now" Williams stiffing a waiter because she's not good enough to support herself if that's what he thinks, but I got to watch him run directly into a pile of linemen for three years and he never got a paycut

[CRA]

 DeAngelo gave us subpar service in 2014 and he still got paid as if it was quality service

I don't tip poor service well either.  But I still tip a real tip.  Lots of things get blamed on servers since they are the ones we actually get to see but there are many things they get blamed for that are beyond their control.   Kitchen errors, too many customers, etc.....lot of that stuff leads to poor service.  But fault really could be elsewhere and your server is just doing their best to survive it.  Then some servers just shouldn't be servers.  But those tips go further than that and get spread around.  Cost of eating out.  It means you are helping pay the staff and choosing to do it.

 

[Bronn]

3 minutes ago, CarolinaSunday said:

You keep saying that, but it's not entirely true.  Yes, servers do make $2.13 an hour.  But if they don't receive enough tips to reach minimum wage, then the employer is required, by law, to bring them up to the minimum wage level.  

Almost everybody is judged by subjective standards when it comes to job performance.  Servers aren't alone in that. 

As stated by the opposition in this thread, most tips are shared with the kitchen or other staff. AND wages involving tips are taxed at a higher rate than standard wages.

So yes, if most people had the mentality of some in this thread, it is hard to say people actually make minimum wage when all is said and done.

[TN05]

7 minutes ago, Bronn said:

As stated by the opposition in this thread, most tips are shared with the kitchen or other staff. AND wages involving tips are taxed at a higher rate than standard wages.

So yes, if most people had the mentality of some in this thread, it is hard to say people actually make minimum wage when all is said and done.

You ignored the post where I showed at minimum they average $7 an hour in tips

[Cj72]

30 minutes ago, Bronn said:

Maybe if you ever need a blood transfusion, they'll only give you one drop just so you know that they know you're an asshole.

I'm thinking someone has gotten a penny tip before....

 

Seriously though, why am I going to give someone a bonus for doing a crappy job? Where I work we get yearly bonuses based on how you performed that year. Guess what? If you do a crappy job you get a crappy bonus

[CPantherKing]

They are lucky he did not demand his money back or push for a free meal if the service is that bad.

Social media reviews by someone who is famous about your poor service is never good for business. Your place of business better rectify this now by offering him something for his poor service/meal or it will be very bad for that business.

All he has to do is drop a Yelp review with his name on it and your business is going to get hurt. Seems like he sent a message without hurting that place of business.

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Just now, CPantherKing said:

They are lucky he did not demand his money back or push for a free meal if the service is that bad.

Social media reviews by someone who is famous about your poor service is never good for business. Your place of business better rectify this now by offering him something for his poor service/meal or it will be very bad for that business.

All he has to do is drop a Yelp review with his name on it and your business is going to get hurt. Seems like he sent a message without hurting that place of business.

It's not bad for business if you realize that DeAngelo is a pious turd

[CPantherKing]

It does not matter who is throwing down $100 at any place of business. You take care of them. Otherwise, do not be in business that serves the public. There are tons of horrible individuals coming through any businesses doors open to the public on a daily basis.

If the issue is with tips/wages, then take it up with your management. Not your customers.

[CarolinaSunday]

12 minutes ago, Bronn said:

As stated by the opposition in this thread, most tips are shared with the kitchen or other staff. AND wages involving tips are taxed at a higher rate than standard wages.

So yes, if most people had the mentality of some in this thread, it is hard to say people actually make minimum wage when all is said and done.

According to the federal Department of Labor, an employer can only take a tip credit (which goes towards the minimum wage requirement) against the tips the employee actually received after the tip pool is dispersed.  

[Doyle]

47 minutes ago, Cat said:

Yep typical TB conservatives with no empathy showing their face in this thread. 

btw tips are a horrible way of pay. You are leaving peoples income up to the mood of the customer at that moment. 

 

D-will.....maybe she just found out her mom had breast cancer or that she did. 

Go back and quote my statements in this thread  and say "yep another typical conservative".  

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4 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

It does not matter who is throwing down $100 at any place of business. You take care of them. Otherwise, do not be in business that serves the public. There are tons of horrible individuals coming through any businesses doors open to the public on a daily basis.

[CPantherKing]

Teach your children the value of rejection in business. Complaining about it and calling the person out who rejected you (in this case with a tip) will not get you anywhere. Now creating a dialogue and listening to why they rejected you and then correcting it will go a long way to establishing value for yourself and your business.

[SmokinwithWilly]

I generally tip well. I was a server and bartender off and on for over 5 years so I know how the business works. There are times when I don't tip more than a penny, and the server has to earn that penny by sucking at such an epic level that there really is no reason to tip him/her because I was my own server. This usually includes me having to get up and get my own drink refills, which I have done, having to go find the manager because my server is nowhere to be found, and having to go get my check from another server to get my receipt from the back because of those stupid table kiosks. There's more, but these are the beginning. If the only time I see you is to take my order, you aren't getting 20%. Sorry, get over it. 

Here's what I expect from my server.

Show up in less than 2 minutes to greet my table and get my drink order. If it's insanely busy, I understand if it takes longer, but I usually go out at off times so I'm not there during the rush. 

Offer to tell me about any specials, promotions or chef specials. 

Take my order, making sure to ask if there are any special needs for my food, no tomatoes(my food allergy), special cook on the steak, etc.

Before bringing my order, looking at it to make sure that it is correct. That is part of a server's job. A server should know how an app, entree, cocktail, etc should be presented. If it's not right, don't bring it out to me. I'll be much more agreeable as a customer to be told that a mistake was made and is being corrected than if you bring it to me and I have to hand it right back. 

Keep my drink close to filled. I always brought a refill when I saw the glass was half full. 

This is a personal preference, but I always like it when a server asks if there's anything they could have done better. It helps them improve, and usually it ends up with me asking for a server by name. 

Offer me dessert or coffee, and if I decline, have my check for me for whenever I'm ready. 

There are only certain restaurants that my wife and I go to and we have our regular servers we ask for by name. My normal tip is usually between 20-30% and I get exceptional service for being a regular. 

I've never figured out yet why I should pay a server $5 instead of $2 because I ordered a steak instead of chicken. The server performed the exact same service. Pick up the plate, carry it to the table, put it down. I've always thought that servers should be paid hourly, not by tips.