No, Mike Remmers isn't bad. No, We didn't play like trash. Yes, our defense is suspect. Yes, it was a close game. Sure, refs missed calls. Yes, we'll be fine.

[cpipster49]

Even in a rigged out the a**hole game like this, it still took a field goal going wide left for the Panthers to lose. I hope von miller and his dirty teammates are out of the league, preferably paralyzed from the neck down before we have to play this dirty franchise again.

[Carolina Cajun]

Remmers is fine...AS A ROTATIONAL BACKUP!  I really wish this would be the dialogue, but for most it's either off the team or starting (and no, I don't think he deserves to start).  The guy is a solid rotational O-lineman, one who can play all 5 positions with competence and is vital for the freshness of the O-line.  That said, he should not be the primary starter, it's time to give Daryl Williams a shot.

[pantherj]

4 minutes ago, Panthers1990 said:

Remmers was NOT the problem. If you wanna bench Remmers, FIRE Shula. Talk to Rivera about his bad coaching. Talk to Cam about his slow walk up to the line of scrimmage as the click's running down. FIRE Coleman and Boston for not being able to freakin tackle for God's sake. Fire the rookie corner for being completely incompetent. If you want to blame Remmers, get on ALL OF THEM. Cause Remmers is NOT why they lost. 

Reemers was loafing off out there. There were times where he wasn't even trying, and now it's time to go to the bench.

I never said we lost because of Remmers alone. You are arguing with a strawman you, or someone else in this thread created.

[Tarheels23]

Our Run D always starts off slow. I'm more disappointed in coaching. 

We went away from Stew for no reason at all. Still no check downs. What is it gonna take for Cam to hit his check down? He's back to waiting for KB to get opened. Philly is stealing Funchess snaps. 

Ron went nickel on goal line when they went 3 WRs. That was a perfect time to stick with Shaq. 

[Mr. Scot]

You know, there aren't many positives to be gained from a week one loss, but one of the few is that the postgame reactions do help to separate who knows what they're talking about from who's being ruled by their emotions.

[pantherj]

Just now, Panthers1990 said:

PFT ok put him on the bench. Now what are you gonna do about Shula, Rivera, the rookie corner, and Tre and Coleman?

Boston is kind of dopey and takes bad angles as a result, but he appears to be giving his best effort. I think more experience might help Boston to improve. Colman looks pretty runty and weak out there, and he's no genius, but he's our best option at the position. Remmers is as good as he's ever going to get, which is somewhere below average, so I want to see Williams. I don't think Williams has reached his ceiling, and even if he's not better talent wise at pass blocking, at least he won't loaf off.

[Carolina Cajun]

7 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

In a nutshell, Jake Delhomme's 2008 season was Mike Remmers tonight. So I guess Jake did a great job that year. Sure, he made some mistakes, but 4/5 of the time he was good. And if he wasn't when it counted, that doesn't mean he did poorly. Right?

Not really.  Delhomme in 08 was an injured QB trying to keep his career alive (and this is coming from a guy who is a DIE HARD Delhomme Supporter, in fact, it's the reason I'm a panthers fan).  Also, Remmers isn't near the fixture in the locker room that Delhomme was, so placing him on the bench as a reserve to fill roles as needed (a REALLY vital role) isn't that detrimental from a chemistry standpoint.  I like Remmers in a Hangartner style role, but as an every day starter...meh.

[SCMunnerlyn1]

17 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

What's astounding to me is how much the Huddle's imploding over a ONE point loss. ONE point. A real darn close game, and a game we fought hard for. Too spoiled by our near perfect run last season. 

Any questions?

[Millioso7]

28 minutes ago, bobsfoodbasics said:

Look at this effort from Mike Remmers

 

Dude is trash

Remmers is going against one of the best pass rushers of this generation he doesn't suck he did pretty well compared to a few months ago.. This is on the refs and gano 

[Wake]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

You know, there aren't many positives to be gained from a week one loss, but one of the few is that the postgame reactions do help to separate who knows what they're talking about from who's being ruled by their emotions.

Is this really a time to start flame wars? If you have a point to argue do it. You sound like a woman with these passive aggressive posts though.

[SwagAces9030]

34 minutes ago, bobsfoodbasics said:

Look at this effort from Mike Remmers

 

Dude is trash

Both of our tackles suck ass... How we are yet to address it is baffling. Remmers barely gets a hand on Von multiple times tonight... Again. 

[Carl Spackler]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

You know, there aren't many positives to be gained from a week one loss, but one of the few is that the postgame reactions do help to separate who knows what they're talking about from who's being ruled by their emotions.

Out of curiosity, how closely link to the former are those who proclaim all is well?

I think it's reasonable to say Remmers is below average at his position and Gano is good when it doesn't matter as much but awful in the clutch. There's some solid evidence to support those claims, at the very least valid arguments. 

[outlaw4]

Keep this in mind. We were playing in high altitude on the road for our season opener. That's far from ideal conditions after not playing serious football since February. Hard to say to what extent that had an impact but you cannot say that it didn't at all, especially the last two quarters. Obviously, all those shots at Cam's head didn't help matters either as with the flags that we had to deal with, argue and challenge. If the offense can score 20 points under such distressing conditions, I feel better that our offense will remain a strength. My disappointment is that it was mainly the KB and Olsen show. Where did the other receivers go and why did we not try some more runs or screens with our backs? The wasting of timeouts was frustrating. Yes, the crowd noise was a big factor but they knew it was going to be a factor and they had a similar environment during the Super Bowl. That needs addressing.

Defensively, there's no way to expect the secondary play to the same level without Norman for Game 1. That's a ludicrous ask, especially when you have rookies out there. Having to face Siemian out there may have been a disadvantage for the rookies, having to compete against a complete unknown. That said, he threw two interceptions anyways. Cam's only interception required a ball tipped skywards and an incredible grab. Frankly, there's no point arguing about Norman right now because he's not here anymore and we won't know how that move will work out until at least season's end, maybe even further out. For now, there will be growing pains and anyone that didn't think that was going to happen are lying to themselves.

Run defense, ugh, I've had issues about this even last season. On occasion, we got gashed but it happened far too often today. There's little excuse for the poor tackling; we were the complete opposite early last season. Siemian's best friend was having a run game and he had it. Taking that away would've been the our secondary's best friend and they didn't have it. You want to hope this was an aberration because the Denver O-line is much better than people think but this could be a recurring problem for the next few games. 

That and whether Cam can survive if he keeps getting hit like that. The loss stings, obviously, but the bulk of my fury is the cheap shots and non-calls. We can overcome this loss but not losing our franchise QB tonight for plays that shouldn't be allowed. Unacceptable.

[CPF4LIFE]

35 minutes ago, Panthers1990 said:

Stop it. If you actually watched the game you can clearly see the issues that i post about. Ain't no "emotion" talk. You cant help but see it on the field. It's so obvious. 

Dont even bother man, you can put all the facts and footage you want in front of that guy and he wont see anything. He doesnt leave delusion land.