Zack Sanchez Released

[CRA]

6 minutes ago, bandu said:

Fitzgerald says hello

Captain has a bigger physique 

Sanchez would get hurt at this level,imo

You can name exceptions to any norm.  Fitzgerald isn't the traditional slot WR. You can also find examples where number ones move to the  slot in game plans .  

Doesn't change the fact most NFL teams try to prepare for tradional slot WR and being spread out. 

It is surprising move.  I'm sure there is a legit reason.  Size was known before we drafted him though and there went examples in preseason of him being destroyed because of it 

[YoungPanthers89]

10 minutes ago, KSpan said:

Even though they're both listed as CBs, they basically play completely different positions.

I know, but based on Williams' play I don't think he should be on the team. Absolute penalty magnet.

[KSpan]

4 minutes ago, davos said:

Heck, just look in house--We throw Funchess in the slot a fair amount.  

When we did that in the NFCCG, Buccanon had him wrapped.  

That's Cotchery.

[davos]

Just now, KSpan said:

That's Cotchery.

Well pickleshoe lol...  

Regardless, we do throw Funch in there a good amount.  

[bandu]

5 minutes ago, CRA said:

You can name exceptions to any norm.  Fitzgerald isn't the traditional slot WR. You can also find examples where number ones move to the  slot in game plans .  

Doesn't change the fact most NFL teams try to prepare for tradional slot WR and being spread out. 

It is surprising move.  I'm sure there is a legit reason.  Size was known before we drafted him though and there went examples in preseason of him being destroyed because of it 

I say size

in your opinion why did they cut him?

[Jakob]

Lol @ the folks who got so high on Gettleman they thought he wouldn't even make a mistake. Hell, he might be one of the top 3 GM's in the league, but he's still going to make mistakes.

[CRA]

2 minutes ago, bandu said:

I say size

in your opinion why did they cut him?

Between the ears issue or off field or coachability.  Some combo of that.

what made him a good player also was aggressiveness and gambling too....we aren't really designed like that IMO.   Going rogue and not playing within the scheme kept Norman out of many games early on.  Rivera doesn't want that from his players IMO 

[bandu]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

Between the ears issue or off field or coachability.  Some combo of that.

what made him a good player also was aggressiveness and gambling too....we aren't really designed like that IMO.   Going rogue and not playing within the scheme kept Norman out of many games early on.  Rivera doesn't want that from his players IMO 

yeah I remember the doghouse...lol

i knew he had a nose for the ball and ventured outside the scheme at times at OU...sometimes the outcome was good but also hurt his team at times too

nakes sense though...thanks for your insight

and do you see potential and how much?

me personally...it's a waste of time 

[CRA]

7 minutes ago, bandu said:

yeah I remember the doghouse...lol

i knew he had a nose for the ball and ventured outside the scheme at times at OU...sometimes the outcome was good but also hurt his team at times too

nakes sense though...thanks for your insight

and do you see potential and how much?

me personally...it's a waste of time 

I'll try to find it but there was an article that had conversation with his college coach and Gettlemen

something along the lines of his college coach saying he repeatedly went rogue and made big plays and to him the good outweighed the bad to him.  Gentlemen remarked that sometimes he likes to drink milkshakes despite them not being all that good for him.

All I thought about was Rivera hating Norman not doing his job early on and to him that meant bench

 

 

I think if we had a veteran filled secondary....you can afford inserting someone who gambles for big plays pending they make a fair share.  I think that was a poor stretch of the draft for Gettlemen and he felt the need to just start throwing DBs into a pot.  Big picture Norman to the 3 consecutive DB stretch of the draft....shows Gettlemen wasn't at his best then in handling our secondary.  I think he goofed in managing that aspect of our roster.  But everyone slips

[Davidson Deac II]

41 minutes ago, YoungPanthers89 said:

I know, but based on Williams' play I don't think he should be on the team. Absolute penalty magnet.

TW did get better in that regard as the season went along.  3 in his first 3 games, for 35 yards and it could be that skewed our opinion against him for the rest of the season.  But then only 40 yards in penalties for the rest of the regular season.  Also, the number of penalties on him does appear to be an aberration at least in comparison to his career totals.   I am hoping that is the case.

 

 

[Raskle]

Surprised by this one, but I have faith in this front office, and assume it was because he just wasn't cutting the mustard.

 

Hopefully the kid clears waivers and lands a PS spot (although that's not a guarantee either), and he grows from this and becomes a better player we can add later on down the road. If not, then he'll be like plenty of other early draft cuts, and find a job in the real world. Good luck to him either way.

[YoungPanthers89]

The Browns just traded Justin Gilbert to the Steelers for a 6th round pick in 2018.....

[panther4life]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

Our last 5th round DB drafted looked like poo for years.  Now he is the highest paid DB in the NFL.

I'm surprised is all they didn't at least keep him for a season to see what he had.  Unless practice was extremely different and it wasn't reported as in camp...he looked better than Worley is all we saw.

wonder if there were some non-talent issues at play 

Norman and Sanchez have nothing in common other than being drafted in the 5th round. Gettleman is obviously not having any "heartburn" over cutting him, and surely he'd have some reservations about cutting the 2nd coming of Norman if that was the case. 

Norman was making impact plays from the beginning when we drafted him and was even lining up against Steve Smith early on, when we still had Gamble on the team. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d829de05b/article/steve-smith-trades-barbs-with-teammate-josh-norman

Josh Norman has something you can't teach either and thats size. No matter how much we coached up Sanchez his ceiling was never going to be nearly high as Norman's. 

I am not a Gettleman apologist by any means. I criticized the guy more than anyone on this board during the 2014 offseason and not to toot my own horn but all my concerns proved to be legit as we fell to 7-8-1.

 

 

 

 

[TheSpecialJuan]

Here’s a look at the few, the not proud, the players who were drafted but didn’t make the team:

Round 5, Pick 141: Panthers CB Zack Sanchez (Oklahoma)

Round 5, Pick 152: Washington DT Matt Ioannidis (Temple)

Round 6, Pick 180: Vikings WR (Schwäbisch Hall Unicorns)

Round 6, Pick 181: Jaguars DE Tyrone Holmes (Montana)

Round 6, Pick 196: Eagles DB Blake Countess (Auburn)

Round 6, Pick 197: Buccaneers TE Dan Vitale (Northwestern)

Round 6, Pick 208: Patriots S Kamu Grugier-Hill (Eastern Illinois)

Round 7, Pick 230: Bears WR Daniel Braverman (Western Michigan)

Round 7, Pick 247: Seahawks RB Zac Brooks (Clemson)