Kudos to Kaepernick

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34 minutes ago, Cookie Lyon said:

I'm not asking Cam to be a social activist. Everyone is not built to be one, but what I am asking of Cam is that if you're going to talk about race issues, at least BE HONEST ABOUT THEM. He's so scared to talk about it now that he's just being completely dishonest about what's going on. 

 

Cam Newton has a 100M contract, is the face of a NFL franchise, is the face of several national products, he has a national children's TV show, he has a freaking statue of himself in a southern community erected, kids of all color want to be him....

Name someone living the American Dream more than Cam Newton

maybe he is being honest.  maybe he doesn't feel at the present time he has a stance to take. 

 

 

 

and I think lots of people are dishonest about what is going....much more so than Cam Newton.   That deserve to be blasted for the dishonestly much more so than Newton

[Cookie Lyon]

1 minute ago, KillaCamNewton said:

Except he doesn't want to talk about them. The media constantly baits him into these questions and the best way to avoid the unwanted backlash is just to stay on the fence. Otherwise you end up like Jerry Rice and get labeled as an Uncle Tom or not black enough because he doesnt have an extreme opinion like the BLM movement and other people expect him to have just because he happens to be black

I know he doesn't want to talk about them now since it's obvious someone got in his ear and told him not to. The main problem Cam has right now is that when he is asked questions about race, he does NOT know how to dodge the question and he ends up saying something totally inaccurate about the situation. I don't like that he's constantly asked these questions, but he needs to learn that just because he is afraid to discuss an issue, he shouldn't then go on to say something dishonest about the issue.

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1 minute ago, Cookie Lyon said:

I know he doesn't want to talk about them now since it's obvious someone got in his ear and told him not to. The main problem Cam has right now is that when he is asked questions about race, he does NOT know how to dodge the question and he ends up saying something totally inaccurate about the situation. I don't like that he's constantly asked these questions, but he needs to learn that just because he is afraid to discuss an issue, he shouldn't then go on to say something dishonest about the issue.

what has he said dishonest?

[pantherphan96]

Cam should have pulled a Charles Barkley

[DaanngJohnny]

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

what has he said dishonest?

 Honestly, Cam needs to step it up with defending racism.  That GQ stuff made him look like he is a talking head.  There is no way he does not think racism is alive and well.  Id appreciate it if he took more of a stance.

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1 hour ago, DaanngJohnny said:

 Honestly, Cam needs to step it up with defending racism.  That GQ stuff made him look like he is a talking head.  There is no way he does not think racism is alive and well.  Id appreciate it if he took more of a stance.

well that wasn't my question, my question is what has he said that was dishonest.

as far as stepping up to defend racism?  I stick with my stance of whose right is it to dictate when and where someone chooses to make a social stance.  Maybe he wants to.  Maybe he doesn't.  Why in the world should have have to do it today or be blasted.

Maybe we should blast Antonio Brown, Mike Tomlin, Ron Rivera, Odell Beckham, Derrick Henry, and literally ever NFL minority for not becoming social advocates the week prior to the start of a NFL season.  I mean Kapernick wants to do it now so if you ain't down you should be blasted?

I'll judge Cam when it is all said and done.  This heat of the moment stuff is for the birds.  Dude clearly wants to do big things and do it his way.  We will see once he reaches his mountain top what he does.

[DaanngJohnny]

Just now, CRA said:

well that wasn't my question, my question is what has he said that was dishonest.

as far as stepping up to defend racism?  I stick with my stance of whose right is it to dictate when and where someone choose to make a social stance.  Maybe he wants to.  Maybe he doesn't.  Why in the world should have have to do it today or be blasted.

Maybe we should blast Antonio Brown, Mike Tomlin, Ron Rivera, Odell Beckham, Derrick Henry, and literally ever NFL minority for not becoming social advocates the week prior to the start of a NFL season.  I mean Kapernick wants to do it now so if you ain't down you should be blasted?

I'll judge Cam when it is all said in done.  This heat of the moment stuff is for the birds.  Dude clearly wants to do big things and do it his way.  We will see once he reaches his mountain top what he does.

He said that he doesn't think there is racism.

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23 minutes ago, DaanngJohnny said:

He said that he doesn't think there is racism.

you miss Cam's point/stance and how he is opting to navigate.

Cam Newton has experienced more racially driven criticism than any player of any major sport I can recall in the last 10 years.   Easily.

but I can tell you this....Charlotte isn't a major market, but I bet there isn't a black QB that has ever played that has had so many kids of all races wishing they could be like Cam.   You look at progress on any major issue from minority rights, women's rights, gay rights issues.....change doesn't just occur from people being loud about injustice publically. 

[KillaCamNewton]

50 minutes ago, CRA said:

well that wasn't my question, my question is what has he said that was dishonest.

as far as stepping up to defend racism?  I stick with my stance of whose right is it to dictate when and where someone choose to make a social stance.  Maybe he wants to.  Maybe he doesn't.  Why in the world should have have to do it today or be blasted.

Maybe we should blast Antonio Brown, Mike Tomlin, Ron Rivera, Odell Beckham, Derrick Henry, and literally ever NFL minority for not becoming social advocates the week prior to the start of a NFL season.  I mean Kapernick wants to do it now so if you ain't down you should be blasted?

I'll judge Cam when it is all said in done.  This heat of the moment stuff is for the birds.  Dude clearly wants to do big things and do it his way.  We will see once he reaches his mountain top what he does.

Thank you. Exactly the point I was trying to make but you said it better. People only think he's being dishonest because he doesn't fit their agenda. Just like when Jerry Rice gave his honest opinion and now he apparently wishes he was white.

[DaanngJohnny]

4 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Awesome thread. So glad it was made. There hasn't been nearly enough talk about 49ers QB Colin Kaepernick on this Panthers forum. 

You read it brah

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11 minutes ago, DaanngJohnny said:

You read it brah

Didn't read. Only clicked to ridicule. 

[ncsfinest21]

here is the divide, you have people more worried about a flag other the entirety of the united states citizens. Remember the people make the United States not the flag. The military protect the United States. They are well represented. Taking a knee is a form of respect. You pray taking a knee, you propose taking a knee. The most respectful poises is taking a knee. I see Kap doing a great thing and I think everybody should do it because we know there is racial issues that still exist and unless you believe in white supremacy you would understand.

[DaanngJohnny]

29 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Didn't read. Only clicked to ridicule. 

At least your honest 

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1 hour ago, ncsfinest21 said:

here is the divide, you have people more worried about a flag other the entirety of the united states citizens. Remember the people make the United States not the flag. The military protect the United States. They are well represented. Taking a knee is a form of respect. You pray taking a knee, you propose taking a knee. The most respectful poises is taking a knee. I see Kap doing a great thing and I think everybody should do it because we know there is racial issues that still exist and unless you believe in white supremacy you would understand.

Kap didn't initially take a knee.  That is as I mentioned at least better than sitting 

my biggest issue with Kap is I don't feel he came in with much of a plan and has done stuff sloppy...when you factor in how big of a stage 

so let's say more take a knee....when do you stand up? Never again? 

Real change IMO happens more generationally as waves move up.