I'm not worried, are you?

[Millioso7]

7 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

How about that Bradberry play where he gambled and got beat? Bradberry got up dejected and forfeited the big play only to have Kuechly come screaming by a jogging Bradberry to stop the play down the field from becoming a TD. Bradberry did start running faster when he realized Kuechly was still going full speed.

None of the rookie DBs have the tough aggressive non stop mentality needed to be a good DB in the NFL. Coleman, Boston, and McClain are that only DBs on the team that have that necessary mentality to succeed in the NFL.

The rest of the team (offense and defense) is going to have to bail the team out often for the problems that secondary will bring on a game to game basis. I just hope TD, Luke, and Shaq can continually make up for those DBs giving up on plays.

The db rookies have not played enough league football yet for that notion.. The rookie dbs are just that rookies.. Cornerbacks have to build confidence to be successful..

[outlaw4]

It's only a concern if we fail to learn from our mistakes and we have similar performances the first few weeks of games that actually matter. 

Besides, lets never forget that the winless 2008 Detroit Lions were preseason champions.

[Car123]

Sigh. Why can't we be like the 2008 Lions preseason team?

[MadHatter]

22 minutes ago, Millioso7 said:

The db rookies have not played enough league football yet for that notion.. The rookie dbs are just that rookies.. Cornerbacks have to build confidence to be successful..

Agree...but that is why having two starting rookie db's scares me.  Too much if the field at risk and you can't roll coverage to help both.

[top dawg]

It's too early for worry, probably, but I am concerned about the defensive backfield. I am pretty sure that it will be good enough for the rank-and-file QBs and bad teams, but as far as the top echelon teams, I don't know.  The good thing is that they will have plenty of time to get their acts in order, and in the meantime the D-line and offense should account for enough games to make it to the dance. Last night was just an anomaly on offense (until I see a pattern).

[Mother Grabber]

40 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

How about that Bradberry play where he gambled and got beat? Bradberry got up dejected and forfeited the big play only to have Kuechly come screaming by a jogging Bradberry to stop the play down the field from becoming a TD. Bradberry did start running faster when he realized Kuechly was still going full speed.

None of the rookie DBs have the tough aggressive non stop mentality needed to be a good DB in the NFL. Coleman, Boston, and McClain are that only DBs on the team that have that necessary mentality to succeed in the NFL.

The rest of the team (offense and defense) is going to have to bail the team out often for the problems that secondary will bring on a game to game basis. I just hope TD, Luke, and Shaq can continually make up for those DBs giving up on plays.

lighten up, Francis. it was their 3rd preseason game and you've already knee jerked them all as busts. 

[The Huddler]

2 hours ago, juliosantos said:

only thing that im worried about is our secoundary , coleman looks terrible at ss , id rather him and boston switch and our rookie corners still scare me . even though i like what i see from bradberry but their is still a huge dropoff since norman got greedy and left us .

Yeah fug him being in position to get an interception. Guy is trash

[Millioso7]

McClain doesn't fit are typical 6ft and up cornerback mold but he's a dog out there.. He was big for us down the stretch last yr..

[ThPantherFan]

1 hour ago, PandaPancake said:

Why do the patriots always hurt us in the preseason? Hoodie Lord playing the long game

He  cheats.

[ThPantherFan]

1 hour ago, TheRumGone said:

Here are my thoughts. I recorded the game and watched it after knowing we stunk up the joint so I was calm and looked at everything from a different perspective. 

 

Cam looks horrid in most preseason games. I was actually surprised he looked so crisp in the first two so I think the expectation was there for us to move the ball at will. It could be that we played inferior competition even with vanilla offense. I don't know. 

Cam seems to kind of be anxious in preseason and I think that has a lot to do with him not wanting to run the football and risk injury so it's kind of like he gets caught in between and can't play freely. It's something he's gonna have to work on as his athleticism diminishes later in his career. His cadence and control of the offense has grown so much the past couple of years. I have no doubt he will be a wizard when that time comes. 

It also seemed like Cam was trying to force feed KB to get him going and get reps against starting DBs and gain some confidence on his knee. Read the SI interview with KB. It's gonna be a mental obstacle he's gonna need to overcome. And that will take a little time. I don't feel like Cam will be forcing tooooo much in regular season, but it's something to keep an eye on. Cam and Kb are close off the field, which mentally might affect his decision making on the field, I know that might sound odd but he will want KB to get his chances. 

We ran the ball very, very well. Lots of good run blocking and superb pass blocking. CAP was slithery and hard to bring down. Great to see. I think if this wasn't a preseason game we would've pounded the rock more because we were running it down their throats. Also remember situationally Cam is a runner. One of our greatest threats. So when we went for it on 4th and 2 and passed. We more then likely run cam or call some sort of play action to Tolbert or Olsen. 

tre Boston is embarrassing. Dude flails and flops around like an idiot. I love tre the person but he's gonna get us into trouble. He needs to be rotational. He's quick as fug and can really be used well in blitz packages but he is very concerning in coverage and being the last man of the defense. 

Luke TD and Shaq are beasts. We are gonna see another year of amazing Lb play and I can't wait to see how they use Shaq as a nickel back to disguise coverages. So many different looks we can give a defense with this kids ability. Probably one of the top most athletically gifted athletes we have on the team that is full of athletic freaks. Amazing.

punter situation is retarded and scary. Need to do something asap because it can lose us close games easily. Very concerned.

dropped passes. Once again like ground hogs day. I'm gonna chalk it up to a bad day for everyone but man oh man it was cringe worthy. Play to the receivers strengths and especially ginn. If Dickson sucks at blocking their is no reason to keep him on the 53. Really nice dude but damn he makes some high school level mistakes. I'd rather keep a tight end that can just flat out block, or flat out catch. We have Olsen that can do a little bit of both. It'll be up to Shula to know how to use that TE.

 

Also a good thing to remember is that we usually come off pretty sloppy the first several games and then we start to get into a groove. Especially the first game. Happened last year but we just found ways to win the games. We're a really talented team, think we will be just fine when we really open things up and let players play to their strengths which we did all of last year. 

 

Excellent assessment.

[ThPantherFan]

58 minutes ago, Millioso7 said:

The db rookies have not played enough league football yet for that notion.. The rookie dbs are just that rookies.. Cornerbacks have to build confidence to be successful..

I totally agree.

[pstall]

If Trevor whatever lights us up in Denver then buckle up.

But not worried.

[therealmjl]

2 hours ago, TheRumGone said:

Here are my thoughts. I recorded the game and watched it after knowing we stunk up the joint so I was calm and looked at everything from a different perspective. 

 

Cam looks horrid in most preseason games. I was actually surprised he looked so crisp in the first two so I think the expectation was there for us to move the ball at will. It could be that we played inferior competition even with vanilla offense. I don't know. 

Cam seems to kind of be anxious in preseason and I think that has a lot to do with him not wanting to run the football and risk injury so it's kind of like he gets caught in between and can't play freely. It's something he's gonna have to work on as his athleticism diminishes later in his career. His cadence and control of the offense has grown so much the past couple of years. I have no doubt he will be a wizard when that time comes. 

It also seemed like Cam was trying to force feed KB to get him going and get reps against starting DBs and gain some confidence on his knee. Read the SI interview with KB. It's gonna be a mental obstacle he's gonna need to overcome. And that will take a little time. I don't feel like Cam will be forcing tooooo much in regular season, but it's something to keep an eye on. Cam and Kb are close off the field, which mentally might affect his decision making on the field, I know that might sound odd but he will want KB to get his chances. 

We ran the ball very, very well. Lots of good run blocking and superb pass blocking. CAP was slithery and hard to bring down. Great to see. I think if this wasn't a preseason game we would've pounded the rock more because we were running it down their throats. Also remember situationally Cam is a runner. One of our greatest threats. So when we went for it on 4th and 2 and passed. We more then likely run cam or call some sort of play action to Tolbert or Olsen. 

tre Boston is embarrassing. Dude flails and flops around like an idiot. I love tre the person but he's gonna get us into trouble. He needs to be rotational. He's quick as fug and can really be used well in blitz packages but he is very concerning in coverage and being the last man of the defense. 

Luke TD and Shaq are beasts. We are gonna see another year of amazing Lb play and I can't wait to see how they use Shaq as a nickel back to disguise coverages. So many different looks we can give a defense with this kids ability. Probably one of the top most athletically gifted athletes we have on the team that is full of athletic freaks. Amazing.

punter situation is retarded and scary. Need to do something asap because it can lose us close games easily. Very concerned.

dropped passes. Once again like ground hogs day. I'm gonna chalk it up to a bad day for everyone but man oh man it was cringe worthy. Play to the receivers strengths and especially ginn. If Dickson sucks at blocking their is no reason to keep him on the 53. Really nice dude but damn he makes some high school level mistakes. I'd rather keep a tight end that can just flat out block, or flat out catch. We have Olsen that can do a little bit of both. It'll be up to Shula to know how to use that TE.

 

Also a good thing to remember is that we usually come off pretty sloppy the first several games and then we start to get into a groove. Especially the first game. Happened last year but we just found ways to win the games. We're a really talented team, think we will be just fine when we really open things up and let players play to their strengths which we did all of last year. 

 

Great write up

[Captain Morgan]

2 hours ago, TheRumGone said:

Here are my thoughts. I recorded the game and watched it after knowing we stunk up the joint so I was calm and looked at everything from a different perspective. 

 

Cam looks horrid in most preseason games. I was actually surprised he looked so crisp in the first two so I think the expectation was there for us to move the ball at will. It could be that we played inferior competition even with vanilla offense. I don't know. 

Cam seems to kind of be anxious in preseason and I think that has a lot to do with him not wanting to run the football and risk injury so it's kind of like he gets caught in between and can't play freely. It's something he's gonna have to work on as his athleticism diminishes later in his career. His cadence and control of the offense has grown so much the past couple of years. I have no doubt he will be a wizard when that time comes. 

It also seemed like Cam was trying to force feed KB to get him going and get reps against starting DBs and gain some confidence on his knee. Read the SI interview with KB. It's gonna be a mental obstacle he's gonna need to overcome. And that will take a little time. I don't feel like Cam will be forcing tooooo much in regular season, but it's something to keep an eye on. Cam and Kb are close off the field, which mentally might affect his decision making on the field, I know that might sound odd but he will want KB to get his chances. 

We ran the ball very, very well. Lots of good run blocking and superb pass blocking. CAP was slithery and hard to bring down. Great to see. I think if this wasn't a preseason game we would've pounded the rock more because we were running it down their throats. Also remember situationally Cam is a runner. One of our greatest threats. So when we went for it on 4th and 2 and passed. We more then likely run cam or call some sort of play action to Tolbert or Olsen. 

tre Boston is embarrassing. Dude flails and flops around like an idiot. I love tre the person but he's gonna get us into trouble. He needs to be rotational. He's quick as fug and can really be used well in blitz packages but he is very concerning in coverage and being the last man of the defense. 

Luke TD and Shaq are beasts. We are gonna see another year of amazing Lb play and I can't wait to see how they use Shaq as a nickel back to disguise coverages. So many different looks we can give a defense with this kids ability. Probably one of the top most athletically gifted athletes we have on the team that is full of athletic freaks. Amazing.

punter situation is retarded and scary. Need to do something asap because it can lose us close games easily. Very concerned.

dropped passes. Once again like ground hogs day. I'm gonna chalk it up to a bad day for everyone but man oh man it was cringe worthy. Play to the receivers strengths and especially ginn. If Dickson sucks at blocking their is no reason to keep him on the 53. Really nice dude but damn he makes some high school level mistakes. I'd rather keep a tight end that can just flat out block, or flat out catch. We have Olsen that can do a little bit of both. It'll be up to Shula to know how to use that TE.

 

Also a good thing to remember is that we usually come off pretty sloppy the first several games and then we start to get into a groove. Especially the first game. Happened last year but we just found ways to win the games. We're a really talented team, think we will be just fine when we really open things up and let players play to their strengths which we did all of last year. 

 

I just finished watching as well.

First 2 main concerns were drops, not only by multiple receivers but also our back 7 on D.  I suppose we could chalk this up to "one of those days", but it was unsettling. 

Next was effort, fire, energy.  Didn't seem to be there until Joe Webb got into the game.  He was excellent, and while it's a back-handed compliment, I wouldn't trade him for any 3rd string qb in the league.

Cap looked very encouraging, did everything you want a 3 down RB to do.

Devin is looking scary good, and plays with an attitude we need on O.

I thought Bradberry had another good game.  Mayo led the team in tackles, and looks beastly.

The first string D looked uncomfortable against the run, and that is being generous.  We've seen this a few times in the past, but still....unsettling.  We've fixed it before, so...

Was impressed with pass blocking by the OL, but worried about White Buffalo's ankle.

as good and effective as Brady was, he was just 3 for 9 with a sack.

We didn't fumble, which may have had something to do with the many interceptions and 3 and out's not giving us time to, and although we caused 2 fumbles, we recovered neither.  

 

So, stone hands, good pass blocking, good running, concerning gaps in the D, some concerns on effort and attitude, but playing one of the top teams in the league and it being pre-season, I'm not jumping off of any bridges.